iPeng support thread

[drewconner]

iOS 5 is bugs all over the place.
One thing that does not work, yet, is storing or retrieving information using the key ring.

Also expect frequent crashes with all Apps including Apple's

I am an iOS developer and I have been running iOS5 since beta 1 (for development purposes). I just thought I'd chime in and say that my company uses the keychain in all of its apps and all work just fine under iOS5. I'm not claiming iOS5 is without bugs, but the keychain is not one of them. The only app I have come across that I use frequently that crashes in iOS5 is yours, and I have tried hundreds of apps.

Obviously I don't expect apps to just work with a beta OS and I don't blame you for the crashes. I'm just hoping that you are not waiting for iOS5 to 'stabilize' before trying to get an update out. I really miss iPeng.

Great app, btw.

[pippin]

I just thought I'd chime in and say that my company uses the keychain in all of its apps and all work just fine under iOS5. I'm not claiming iOS5 is without bugs, but the keychain is not one of them.

I can only say that there definitely were keychain issues until beta 3. It works again in beta4 without me changing anything.

The only app I have come across that I use frequently that crashes in iOS5 is yours, and I have tried hundreds of apps.

Try the builtin camera App for example.It crashes for me on every 2nd or 3rd photo I make still with beta 4 although beta 4 got much better. I got into serious trouble with my GF because when on vacation I could not really take photos due to this.

Among others that were completely unusable for me until beta 3 are facebook and weatherPro, and TapaTalk just to name a few I use frequently.

I made this comment when beta 2 was the status quo, especially beta 4 got much better.

Obviously I don't expect apps to just work with a beta OS and I don't blame you for the crashes. I'm just hoping that you are not waiting for iOS5 to 'stabilize' before trying to get an update out. I really miss iPeng.

I am waiting for XCode to "stabilize" until I even start to consider doing serious iOS5 related work.
Right now I get 4 exceptions in XCode with every single change I make to my project (like renaming a file).
I now this is because I use a legacy project because with my new projects I created in XCode 4 it will only raise two exceptions per change.
From time to time XCode crashes on startup when trying to load a xib file which means I then have to find out which one it is, remove it from the project and re-add it. This is unusable crap. And that's the release version.
I'm seriously angry about Apple here. I talked to Apple engineers (XCode developers, that is) and they had no idea what the problem is but seriously, EVERYBODY around me there had the same trouble.

Apple's got a really serious quality problem right now. I'm not willing to invest even more days to debug yet another XCode version.

That aside - I only have one serious development machine anymore and since I can't build for the App Store if I load 4.2 onto that machine I'm without debug capability for iOS 5.

That said: iPEng doesn't crash as often for me under beta 4 (the keychain issue wasn't causing the crashes, that was a communication stack issue, I believe, because all the Apps where I saw this used to crash while trying to load data from the internet), there are only two crashes for which I get reports from Apple and one is one I've already fixed and which I believe may also be the reason for at least some of the crashes mentioned above although I did nut get any iOS 4 crash reports.
The other one is one I seriously don't understand, somwhere deep in the graphics subsystem, I tend to claim that's an iOS issue.

[drewconner]

I'm sorry you're having trouble with Xcode. I've been using Xcode 4 for the better part of a year now and I've honestly had no problems with it whatsoever (working on both new and older projects). You can also install two versions of Xcode side by side. I do this to allow me to work on iOS5 apps as well as maintain a stable install for submission to the App Store.

If it's any help, I can say that I didn't experience any crashes with iPeng until I upgraded to 7.6.

I hope you get your development environment issues resolved. Best of luck with that.

EDIT: I've attached the crash logs from my phone, hopefully they will be of some help.

[pippin]

I'm sorry you're having trouble with Xcode. I've been using Xcode 4 for the better part of a year now and I've honestly had no problems with it whatsoever (working on both new and older projects). You can also install two versions of Xcode side by side. I do this to allow me to work on iOS5 apps as well as maintain a stable install for submission to the App Store.

I know. I did this in the past and it wasn't without problems. Given the trouble I already have I am not planning to seriously go 5 until they start to send out GM seeds.

If it's any help, I can say that I didn't experience any crashes with iPeng until I upgraded to 7.6.

Anything you can reproduce? Does everything else in your SB system work?
Can you give me remote access?
I've been running 7.6 for >6 months now and I haven't seen iPeng crashes specific to this for a long time and can't reproduce anything I hear about.
I've heard about some issues people had with the current iPeng when their server wasn't working correctly but except for a communication issue I didn't find anything significant that can cause a crash.

I hope you get your development environment issues resolved. Best of luck with that.

I won't try. I'm creating a new project for iPeng which will hopefully reduce issues and then I plan to not let anything that even remotely looks beta onto my work machine. I still don't even have Lion on that one although that's due to a different reason (a business critical software not yet being compatible).

[drewconner]

I edited my previous reply and attached some crash logs probably while you were writing your reply. Not sure if you saw that or not. Hopefully they will help shed some light on the issue. If they don't help, I can give you remote access to my library if needed.

[pippin]

I edited my previous reply and attached some crash logs probably while you were writing your reply. Not sure if you saw that or not. Hopefully they will help shed some light on the issue. If they don't help, I can give you remote access to my library if needed.

Thanks. EDIT: No, that's the graphics subsystem trying to access some released object. Not sure that's me...
If you are having issues on startup, are you sure it's crashes and not timeouts? These log separately.

Could you please send me an e-mail: coolio att penguinlovesmusic dott com?

[pippin]

OK, thank you drewconner, that helped.

For everybody else who's experiencing crashes after the 7.6 update: please make sure something is playing on all of your devices, then the crash should go away.

[MeSue]

Hi Pippin, I was using the handy dandy Wiki search feature in iPeng and it made me think how great a similar thing would be for lyrics search. Preferably just a google search that inserted the song title and artist +lyrics into the search string, that way you aren't tied into one specific lyric site.

[pippin]

good idea

[speedy75]

Have you tried the ones I made above (except CustomBrowse)?
Is any one of you able to give me remote access?

Which OS, BTW?

OS 4.3.3

After a full rescan of my music folder with squeezecenter the crashes stopped.