Total noob question-music access

[akbungle]

Thanks in advance everyone seems quite helpful here.
My question is could I use an external hard drive like this one:
Western Digital 1TB My Book World Edition - Ethernet (10/100/1000) Network Storage - WDG1NC10000N
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...53&dcaid=17653
to stream my music somewhat like a server but all in one, my guess is no since I can't run programs,like slim server on it, but I thought it was worth it to ask. I have the Duet pre-ordered and I'm trying to figure out the best way to have something on at all times that is energy efficient. I did see the other discussion about a low powered server but that is way over my head.

[th00ht]

I would look/search in 3rd Party hardware on this forum. There are various discussions on mini-MX something, something boards. Sadly, as long as you use the SlimDevices setup you will need some "intelligence" in your network, like a server. This server will have to run whenever you want to listen to music (24*7*366 that is :-) ) and therefor will spoil the climate for the next generation... in a way.

There are some low noise, low power solutions as well. Right now I'm trying to convince Lacie that they should ditch Twonkyserver and embrace SlimDevices as there preferred partner for network storage appliances (NAS). I'm not aware of another NAS producer that support the SlimServer or SqueezeCenter as an appliance. Also I'm not sure if SD themselves will be offering something.

I myself am thinking to tweak my Lacie Ethernet Disk mini to act as a SlimServer. It's all linux so it cannot be difficult can it?

http://www.google.ch/search?hl=en&q=...e+Search&meta=

[bobkoure]

You also might think about printing out some of those posts about low power servers and taking them to your local PC shop. For instance, I build PCs as a hobby - but when I need some of them for a site, I have the local PC shop build them for me.
If you mention where you're located, maybe someone here might have a shop to recommend that's not too far away.

[akbungle]

Right now I'm trying to convince Lacie that they should ditch Twonkyserver and embrace SlimDevices as there preferred partner for network storage appliances (NAS). I'm not aware of another NAS producer that support the SlimServer or SqueezeCenter as an appliance. Also I'm not sure if SD themselves will be offering something.
http://www.google.ch/search?hl=en&q=...e+Search&meta=

I checked out the Lacie from your search, so they have built in something that could possibly do what I want? I noticed it also said it has an iTunes server built in. So if they did support Slimserver would that then do the trick?

Thanks, here's another very silly question: What is really the difference between a PC and a server?
One more question: Is the Duet remote RF? I'm really hoping it is since the Receiver will be in my whole house audio hub area(closed off mud room) and I want to be able to use the remote anywhere in the house.
Again thanks for the help!

[SilverRS8]

I checked out the Lacie from your search, so they have built in something that could possibly do what I want? I noticed it also said it has an iTunes server built in. So if they did support Slimserver would that then do the trick?

Thanks, here's another very silly question: What is really the difference between a PC and a server?
One more question: Is the Duet remote RF? I'm really hoping it is since the Receiver will be in my whole house audio hub area(closed off mud room) and I want to be able to use the remote anywhere in the house.
Again thanks for the help!

As I believe LaCie haven't any device in their portfolio that is capable of running SS or SC on it. You'll have to look for a real NAS but if I were you I would wait until there are NAS devices available capable of running SC7. It may require more memory or CPU power which doesn't apply (at all) for most NAS devices.

There is no real difference between a server and a PC from file sharing point of view. It more like how you use it... If your using Microsoft OS'es than they have a build in limitation on non server OS'es (Windows 2000 pro, Windows XP, Vista) that not more than 10 outside connections are allowed. This is no real technical limitation but just one Microsoft though was necesarry so people won't (or can't) use a desktop OS for larger server environments.

The Duet controller uses WiFi to 'control' SC which in turn controls the Receiver, SB or Transporter. So without a Wifi network it won't be of any use. But when you have a wifi network the beauty of it is that you can use it anywhere without having to point to the receiver in visible sight!.

Frank

EDIT: Silly or dumb questions don't exist. Everybody has to start with something sometime.

[slimpy]

The Western Digital My Book can't be used to run squeezecenter/slimserver.
Have a look at flipflip's slimserver on diskstation.
Check out the wiki here and search the 3rd party forum.
BTW, the Duet Controller and Receiver can connect in ad-hoc mode, an existing wireless network is not required (but recommended).

-s.

[akbungle]

As I believe LaCie haven't any device in their portfolio that is capable of running SS or SC on it. You'll have to look for a real NAS but if I were you I would wait until there are NAS devices available capable of running SC7. It may require more memory or CPU power which doesn't apply (at all) for most NAS devices.

There is no real difference between a server and a PC from file sharing point of view. It more like how you use it... If your using Microsoft OS'es than they have a build in limitation on non server OS'es (Windows 2000 pro, Windows XP, Vista) that not more than 10 outside connections are allowed. This is no real technical limitation but just one Microsoft though was necesarry so people won't (or can't) use a desktop OS for larger server environments.

The Duet controller uses WiFi to 'control' SC which in turn controls the Receiver, SB or Transporter. So without a Wifi network it won't be of any use. But when you have a wifi network the beauty of it is that you can use it anywhere without having to point to the receiver in visible sight!.

Frank

EDIT: Silly or dumb questions don't exist. Everybody has to start with something sometime.

I think I will wait until there is a NAS that will run SC7, hopefully I can find one with SC7 installed on it.
Thanks to everyone that gave me info and especially Frank as this all makes a lot more sense now.
One more thing. Is there generally a limit to how many wireless devices that can work off of a wireless router? Currently I have two PS3s, two laptops, occasionally a PSP, and soon both of the duet pieces.

[radish]

Is there generally a limit to how many wireless devices that can work off of a wireless router? Currently I have two PS3s, two laptops, occasionally a PSP, and soon both of the duet pieces.

I'm sure there is a hard limit, but it will vary from router to router (and should be at least in the hundreds). What you might notice however is that as you get more devices which are active at one time the bandwidth to each one may reduce slightly - they're all sharing from the same pot so to speak. I currently have 12 or so devices on my D-Link router and it works just fine.

[slimpy]

I think I will wait until there is a NAS that will run SC7, hopefully I can find one with SC7 installed on it.
Thanks to everyone that gave me info and especially Frank as this all makes a lot more sense now.
One more thing. Is there generally a limit to how many wireless devices that can work off of a wireless router? Currently I have two PS3s, two laptops, occasionally a PSP, and soon both of the duet pieces.

The total available bandwidth is shared among all connected devices. At some point you might run into issues if you use a lot of devices that use a lot of bandwidth consistently (like streaming to a lot of SB at the same time).

Other than bandwidth issues the only limitation is how many DHCP leases your router can handle.
You can still use fixed IPs if that's a problem.

My current wireless network handles two laptops, 2 SB3, SB Receiver, SB Controller, slimp3 over wireless bridge and nokia770 just fine @54Mbps.

-s.

[bobkoure]

If your using Microsoft OS'es than they have a build in limitation on non server OS'es (Windows 2000 pro, Windows XP, Vista) that not more than 10 outside connections are allowed. This is no real technical limitation but just one Microsoft though was necesarry so people won't (or can't) use a desktop OS for larger server environments.

Actually, WinNT, Win2K, and (I think) Win XP only enforce connection limits for inbound ports 256 and below (possibly because it's hard to track what high numbered connections are initiated-inbound and what are a response to an outbound connection request).