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  • Gazza_UK
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 29

    EAC says there were errors after CD ripped, but all seems fine?

    Hi,

    I have started to use EAC and only a done a few albums at the moment. I used the the guide in these forums and compared with another EAC guide, to ensure it was hopefully set-up correctly.

    I have it creating an error log at the end and each one so far says 'there were errors' and the last track on each one says 'missing samples'. Below is the log for the CD I have just done, can anyone please tell me what the error is, if any? I have skipped through some tracks at random and they seem fine to me. So I am at a loss as to what the actual problem is... or if there is one at all.

    I only needed to put one CD in for it to get the offset and it would appear the newer version of EAC automatically installs AccurateRip, whereas the guide shows a separate install. I am seeing no info on screen for AccurateRip like you do within dBpoweramp.

    Any advice/help/suggestions much appreciated.

    Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 4 from 23. January 2008

    EAC extraction logfile from 11. February 2008, 12:11

    Anastacia / Anastacia

    Used drive : HL-DT-STDVDRRW GSA-H30L Adapter: 0 ID: 1

    Read mode : Secure
    Utilize accurate stream : Yes
    Defeat audio cache : No
    Make use of C2 pointers : No

    Read offset correction : 102
    Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
    Fill up missing offset samples with silence : No
    Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
    Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
    Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
    Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track

    Used output format : User Defined Encoder
    Selected bitrate : 1024 kBit/s
    Quality : High
    Add ID3 tag : No
    Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe
    Additional command line options : -6 -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s


    TOC of the extracted CD

    Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    1 | 0:00.00 | 4:17.46 | 0 | 19320
    2 | 4:17.46 | 4:17.32 | 19321 | 38627
    3 | 8:35.03 | 3:33.17 | 38628 | 54619
    4 | 12:08.20 | 3:30.19 | 54620 | 70388
    5 | 15:38.39 | 4:26.22 | 70389 | 90360
    6 | 20:04.61 | 3:04.07 | 90361 | 104167
    7 | 23:08.68 | 4:03.06 | 104168 | 122398
    8 | 27:11.74 | 4:37.25 | 122399 | 143198
    9 | 31:49.24 | 3:52.67 | 143199 | 160665
    10 | 35:42.16 | 4:12.70 | 160666 | 179635
    11 | 39:55.11 | 3:26.32 | 179636 | 195117
    12 | 43:21.43 | 5:15.61 | 195118 | 218803


    Track 1

    Filename F:\Music\Anastacia\Anastacia\01 - Seasons Change.wav

    Peak level 96.6 %
    Track quality 99.8 %
    Copy CRC 7D3E9682
    Copy OK

    Track 2

    Filename F:\Music\Anastacia\Anastacia\02 - Left Outside Alone.wav

    Peak level 96.6 %
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Copy CRC B5D6A3C6
    Copy OK

    Track 3

    Filename F:\Music\Anastacia\Anastacia\03 - Time.wav

    Peak level 96.6 %
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Copy CRC BFDE9B44
    Copy OK

    Track 4

    Filename F:\Music\Anastacia\Anastacia\04 - Sick And Tired.wav

    Peak level 96.6 %
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Copy CRC 15583970
    Copy OK

    Track 5

    Filename F:\Music\Anastacia\Anastacia\05 - Heavy On My Heart.wav

    Peak level 96.6 %
    Track quality 99.9 %
    Copy CRC 5845007C
    Copy OK

    Track 6

    Filename F:\Music\Anastacia\Anastacia\06 - I Do.wav

    Peak level 96.6 %
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Copy CRC 6A866CF2
    Copy OK

    Track 7

    Filename F:\Music\Anastacia\Anastacia\07 - Welcome To My Truth.wav

    Peak level 96.6 %
    Track quality 99.9 %
    Copy CRC 89924ADC
    Copy OK

    Track 8

    Filename F:\Music\Anastacia\Anastacia\08 - Pretty Little Dum Dum.wav

    Peak level 96.6 %
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Copy CRC 42D2B0AD
    Copy OK

    Track 9

    Filename F:\Music\Anastacia\Anastacia\09 - Sexy Single.wav

    Peak level 96.6 %
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Copy CRC D372C0B6
    Copy OK

    Track 10

    Filename F:\Music\Anastacia\Anastacia\10 - Rearview.wav

    Peak level 96.6 %
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Copy CRC 1452935D
    Copy OK

    Track 11

    Filename F:\Music\Anastacia\Anastacia\11 - Where Do I Belong.wav

    Peak level 96.6 %
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Copy CRC F2C68BE3
    Copy OK

    Track 12

    Filename F:\Music\Anastacia\Anastacia\12 - Maybe Today.wav

    Missing samples
    Peak level 96.6 %
    Track quality 99.9 %
    Copy CRC 4652865E
    Copy finished

    There were errors

    End of status report
  • autopilot
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2371

    #2
    Hello mate, nice to see you getting some help here, you will probably have more luck than on AV.

    Anyway, the errors are caused by Anastacia's terrible songs. It's known as 'cheese overload'.



    But seriously, i dont think there is anything to worry about there at all. Looks like a great rip. I dont think i have ever had a CD that was 100% for every track, even brand new ones out of a sealed case. I just shows how accurate/fussy EAC is, those rips look like they are perfectly acceptable. Stick with EAC, it's the best ripper if you can live without album art, and DBpowerAMP is not that much easier to use.
    Cheers, auto.

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    • Gazza_UK
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 29

      #3
      That made me laugh regarding cheese overload.

      Album art I can easily add, but its only for display when looking at folders on Vista, I do not need it for any other reason.

      I just ripped another album and again it said the exact same message. God knows why it says this every time on the last one, but if you say all looks good, then I shall carry on with the task at hand :-)

      Cheers,

      Gazza.

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      • Robin Bowes

        #4
        EAC says there were errors after CDripped, but all seems fine?

        Gazza_UK wrote:

        > I just ripped another album and again it said the exact same message.
        > God knows why it says this every time on the last one, but if you say
        > all looks good, then I shall carry on with the task at hand :-)


        No, don't do that. If EAC says there are errors then there's something
        wrong with your rip.

        Track Quality < 100% doesn't make any difference, so there must be
        something else going on.

        Try doing a Test & Copy extraction (Shift-F6).

        Also, I'd check your drive settings. The recommended settings for an
        accurate rip are:

        Checked Drive has 'Accurate Stream' feature
        Checked Drive caches audio data
        Unchecked Drive is capable of retrieving C2 error information

        R.

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        • Khuli
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 385

          #5
          From the EAC FAQ:

          When you get 99.7% and so on, that means that a bad sector was found, but the secure mode has corrected it - from 16 times of grabbing the sector, there were 8 or more identical results. So it only indicates read problems. It is the ratio between the number of minimum reads needed to perform the extraction and the number of reads that were actually performed. 100% will only occur when the CD was extracted without any rereads on errors. ONLY when there are suspicious positions reported, there are really uncorrectable read errors in the resulting audio file.
          Last edited by Khuli; 2008-02-11, 13:55.
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          • Hercules
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 168

            #6
            To invoke Accurip I think you need to do the following:

            - Either go into the "EAC" > "EAC Options" menu, and tick "Fill up missing offset samples with silence" on the "Extraction" tab

            - Or go into the "EAC" > "Drive Options" menu, and tick "Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out" on the "Offset / Speed" tab

            Looking at EAC on my PC here at work I can't see either of those settings although I've only just installed it and haven't been through the setup process. Those instructions have worked for me previously.
            Last edited by Hercules; 2008-02-11, 13:54.

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            • Skunk
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 2367

              #7
              Originally posted by Gazza_UK
              Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
              Fill up missing offset samples with silence : No
              Changing the overread setting to 'Yes' may solve your problem with the last track missing samples. If it doesn't you can try changing it back to 'No' and change fill missing samples with silence to 'Yes'.
              'The Buddha resides quite as comfortably in the circuits of a computer as he does at the top of a mountain or in the petals of a flower'.
              -Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

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              • Gazza_UK
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 29

                #8
                Originally posted by Robin Bowes
                Gazza_UK wrote:

                > I just ripped another album and again it said the exact same message.
                > God knows why it says this every time on the last one, but if you say
                > all looks good, then I shall carry on with the task at hand :-)


                No, don't do that. If EAC says there are errors then there's something
                wrong with your rip.

                Track Quality < 100% doesn't make any difference, so there must be
                something else going on.

                Try doing a Test & Copy extraction (Shift-F6).

                Also, I'd check your drive settings. The recommended settings for an
                accurate rip are:

                Checked Drive has 'Accurate Stream' feature
                Checked Drive caches audio data
                Unchecked Drive is capable of retrieving C2 error information

                R.
                It would appear my drive does not support cache and C2. I let EAC do a test of my drive and it came back yes/no/no. Hence why its only checked in Accurate Stream.

                I just put a new CD in (did shift+F6)... the first track comes back with no errors... but the last track does. It would appear its the last track on every CD so far that is reporting the same.

                Missing samples
                Peak level 99.5 %
                Track quality 100.0 %
                Test CRC 58083E40
                Copy CRC 58083E40
                Copy finished

                What is this missing samples? Is there a setting in EAC that I might have got wrong as all tracks bar the last one report copy OK.

                Thanks,

                Gazza.
                Last edited by Gazza_UK; 2008-02-11, 14:08.

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                • Gazza_UK
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 29

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hercules
                  To invoke Accurip I think you need to do the following:

                  - Either go into the "EAC" > "EAC Options" menu, and tick "Fill up missing offset samples with silence" on the "Extraction" tab

                  - Or go into the "EAC" > "Drive Options" menu, and tick "Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out" on the "Offset / Speed" tab

                  Looking at EAC on my PC here at work I can't see either of those settings although I've only just installed it and haven't been through the setup process. Those instructions have worked for me previously.
                  Originally posted by Skunk
                  Changing the overread setting to 'Yes' may solve your problem with the last track missing samples. If it doesn't you can try changing it back to 'No' and change fill missing samples with silence to 'Yes'.
                  Will give that a try now, thanks.
                  Last edited by Gazza_UK; 2008-02-11, 14:10.

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                  • Gazza_UK
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 29

                    #10
                    Just did same last track again and changing this option "EAC" > "Drive Options" menu, and tick "Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out" on the "Offset / Speed" tab.

                    Peak level 99.5 %
                    Track quality 100.0 %
                    Test CRC A40AA505
                    Copy CRC A40AA505
                    Track not present in AccurateRip database
                    Copy OK


                    None of the tracks are present in the AccurateRip database

                    No errors occurred

                    Although I would have expected this to be in the database, but at least that error has gone now on the last track.

                    Should I change it back and test with the other option, or will all be fine now?

                    Thanks,

                    Gazza.

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                    • Skunk
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 2367

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Gazza_UK
                      Should I change it back and test with the other option, or will all be fine now?
                      No, if the drive can overread then that should be your first choice. If it couldn't overread you'd have probably gotten a synch error, but it may be worth trying a full cd rather than just one track.
                      'The Buddha resides quite as comfortably in the circuits of a computer as he does at the top of a mountain or in the petals of a flower'.
                      -Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

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                      • Hercules
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 168

                        #12
                        Glad to hear it's now working Gazza :-)

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                        • Gazza_UK
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 29

                          #13
                          Just a matter of curiosity, I have tried the other way and it now reports:

                          Peak level 99.9 %
                          Track quality 99.9 %
                          Copy CRC 55E57F7A
                          Accurately ripped (confidence 25) [2D9BD44E]
                          Copy OK


                          All tracks accurately ripped

                          No errors occurred

                          Thanks for everyone's input in helping me sort this out.

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                          • autopilot
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 2371

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Robin Bowes
                            Gazza_UK wrote:

                            > I just ripped another album and again it said the exact same message.
                            > God knows why it says this every time on the last one, but if you say
                            > all looks good, then I shall carry on with the task at hand :-)


                            No, don't do that. If EAC says there are errors then there's something
                            wrong with your rip.

                            Track Quality < 100% doesn't make any difference, so there must be
                            something else going on.

                            Try doing a Test & Copy extraction (Shift-F6).

                            Also, I'd check your drive settings. The recommended settings for an
                            accurate rip are:

                            Checked Drive has 'Accurate Stream' feature
                            Checked Drive caches audio data
                            Unchecked Drive is capable of retrieving C2 error information

                            R.
                            But will an error that small even be perceivable to the human, or are we splitting hairs here?
                            Cheers, auto.

                            Lounge: Squeezebox 3, Squeezebox Controller, Cambridge Audio 640A, Mission 701's Kitchen: Squeezebox Touch, Trends TA-10.1, Kef Cresta 1's. Bedroom: Squeezebox Boom Bathroom/Garden: Squeezebox Radio Car: iPod Classic 80GB Portable: iPhone 3GS 32Gb (+iPeng)

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                            • Hercules
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 168

                              #15
                              Originally posted by autopilot
                              But will an error that small even be perceivable to the human, or are we splitting hairs here?
                              That's what us lot do!

                              By the way is there a spelling mistake - i.e. "aplha" - in your signature? ;-)

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