Release of Beta Development Kits for Squeezebox Jive Target Hardware Platform

[bruceleecc]

Logitech - I'd be interested in testing Jive if that's a possibility. If not, I guess I'll just cross my fingers that you guys make this available and wait till then.

It's nice to see such a huge open community for a retail product. Really adds a sense of ownership to the product and feeling of involvement. Hope it continues under Logitech management.

[CardinalFang]

Yeah, right now that's all it's used for. But I bet someone will come up with other interesting uses... certainly games, or maybe a way to control things using gestures?

One thing that I would find useful would be a motion to mute sound immediately, like a shake of the handset. Since it's an accelerometer I'm assuming it can't detect steady state orientation? So we're looking at sudden motions? A twist of the wrist to skip forwards or backwards a song would be cool - I'll have to do some research on the Wii we have at home!

[mflint]

One thing that I would find useful would be a motion to mute sound immediately, like a shake of the handset. Since it's an accelerometer I'm assuming it can't detect steady state orientation? So we're looking at sudden motions? A twist of the wrist to skip forwards or backwards a song would be cool - I'll have to do some research on the Wii we have at home!

Earlier in the thread, I'm sure someone said it harnesses the power of gravity to detect the device's orientation. (Or words to that effect)

It's funny, but when I first used a Wii remote I wondered whether it could be hacked to control SlimServer with the "flick up/down/left/right" actions. Surprised to see that there haven't been more mentions of Wii...

Matthew

[Daryle Tilroe]

Since it's an accelerometer I'm assuming it can't detect steady state orientation? So we're looking at sudden motions?

So are you in space or a free fall orbit? ;-P Gravity: the acceleration you barely notice.

[CardinalFang]

So are you in space or a free fall orbit? ;-P Gravity: the acceleration you barely notice.

As it happens, neither.

Accelerometers aren't always used for measuring inclination via static gravity measurements, sometimes they are used to measure vibrations and motion, and sometimes both. I had assumed that because it reacted to motions that it wouldn't give static inclination readings. Perhaps I'm wrong.

[Daryle Tilroe]

Accelerometers aren't always used for measuring inclination via static gravity measurements, sometimes they are used to measure vibrations and motion, and sometimes both. I had assumed that because it reacted to motions that it wouldn't give static inclination readings. Perhaps I'm wrong.

It really all depends on sensitivity and software. Accelerometers measure vibrations and motion are via the changes in acceleration or jerk and possibly also the snap and higher order derivatives (these are actually the technical terms, crackle and pop have also been proposed as terms for the higher orders for obvious reasons ). For example if you accelerated a device to a velocity and then deccelerated it below the accelerometer measurment threshold the software would still think it was moving. The point is, given a modern 3 axis accelerometer of reasonable sensitivity and a predictable gravity/acceleration field you can do anything you want in software. From the specs this seems to be what is in the Jive.

[FLMike]

Just a note to say that this looks really, really great. I've been toying with the idea of getting a mini PC and a touch screen for the living room or maybe a Nokia, but neither option really satisfied me. I hope this makes it into production and soon because this is the missing piece of the Squeezebox solution from my perspective.

I am a heavy Rhapsody user. Is the device going to support Squeezenetwork/Rhapsody effectively?

Mike

[Murph]

I'd sum this up in the first technical term that came to my mind as soon as I read what your up to.

SWEEEEEET !!

[Loki69]

yes yes, a very nice device if i must say so. lovin it

[earthbased]

The Jive target hardware uses 802.11, and it actually controls SlimServer or SqueezeNetwork. The unique way our devices work means that our hardware (Squeezebox and Transporter) is actually controlled by our server software (SlimServer or SqueezeNetwork) so the Jive actually controls the server which, in turn, controls the players.

Make sense?

Mike

Cool. When is this going to be released for purchase?