Thank you for your answer. Please let me just explain my way from .flc to .wav - I don't want to change the subject of this Thread.
I know the relation between .wav and .flac - Files. I just wonder why the .wav File plays different on my SB3 than the same .flac File. As an example: the 2nd movement of the string quartet op.135 from Ludwig von Beethoven, interpreted by the Alban Berg Quartett, sounds as .flac File more metallic, with less air around the instruments and with less deep, than the .wav-Version.
I would be happy if the .flac Files sound the same as the .wav Files and I see all the advantages of the .flac Files. I already have built up my music library with .flac Files (FLAC 1.1.3), but was not really satisfied with the sound quality. So I tuned my SB3 (new power supply, AES/EBU-Interface), but I still missed the "aaahhhh" - feeling. Then I tried the .wav Version (I stored them before compressing to flac) - and now I am happy with the sound. These are my experiences, and I cannot explain them and would like to investigate more in this topic, perhaps in another part of the forum.
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2007-02-13, 01:14 #21
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Wave - Flac
2007-02-13, 02:14 #22
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@Craig: could you upload a screenshot of the first page in that hex editor? I would need the exact structure inside the data. As far as I could find out so far, the are probably the following fields?
itrk Track Number
firstname.lastname@example.org: inserting themselves in the header without rewriting the full file is only possible if the ripper did include enough padding while writing the file in the first place. If no space for metadata was reserved at the beginning, it has to fail. ogg and flac are similarly bad usually, only ID3v2 for mp3s does support reserved padding quite well.
2007-02-13, 06:20 #23Robin BowesGuest
WAV tag editor. Experts on Wave filesonly, please
> Hello Robin
> Thank you for your answer. Please let me just explain my way from .flc
> to .wav - I don't want to change the subject of this Thread.
> I know the relation between .wav and .flac - Files. I just wonder why
> the .wav File plays different on my SB3 than the same .flac File. As an
> example: the 2nd movement of the string quartet op.135 from Ludwig von
> Beethoven, interpreted by the Alban Berg Quartett, sounds as .flac File
> more metallic, with less air around the instruments and with less deep,
> than the .wav-Version.
I've not got that performance. I have the Talich, Juilliard, and Vegh
Quartets. I'm listening to the Vegh Quartet at the moment.
> I would be happy if the .flac Files sound the same as the .wav Files
> and I see all the advantages of the .flac Files. I already have built
> up my music library with .flac Files (FLAC 1.1.3), but was not really
> satisfied with the sound quality. So I tuned my SB3 (new power supply,
> AES/EBU-Interface), but I still missed the "aaahhhh" - feeling. Then I
> tried the .wav Version (I stored them before compressing to flac) - and
> now I am happy with the sound. These are my experiences, and I cannot
> explain them and would like to investigate more in this topic, perhaps
> in another part of the forum.
Are you streaming flac natively so it is decoded on the SB?
Are you streaming wav natively so it is decoded on the SB?
You might like to try decoding flac on the server and streaming as wav -
some folk have reported that they believe that to sound better than
streaming as flac and decoding on the SB.
2007-02-13, 06:24 #24
ID3v1 on WAV files is a kludge, but if it works for your studio application, then fine. Transporter can use it, and that's all you need. If you ever need more (ID3v1 is pretty limited as far as Genre choices and length of data fields), then you can compress to FLAC and use the more flexible Vorbis tags.
2007-02-13, 09:40 #25MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox.
2007-02-14, 12:36 #26
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2008-09-05, 14:51 #27
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Maybe I'm reading these posts late ...
I put all my CDs (about 250) into .wav and TAG the files using Tag&Rename.
It works perfectly, and I was very surprised that limited French classical editions were found from CDDB database.
But now ... I'm looking at .flac format or MP3 for the car (now all radios have USB Keys). But I did not find a way to keep the TAGs from the .wav files when compressed into .flac or MP3.
So I probably had to start directly with .flac : this advice seems to be given many times in this forum !
2008-09-05, 15:34 #28
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I use an old application for transcoding: frontah detects ID3 Tags in wav files and copies them to the target mp3 or flac if you want.
For tagging wavs you also may use another old application MP3 Renatager. The added Tags are schown in Squeezecenter.
Edit: Both freeware. i use frontah mostly for mirroring my flac folders to mp3 folders, much easier then scipts. Just enter a target dir.
Last edited by Wombat; 2008-09-05 at 15:53.Transporter (modded) -> RG142 -> Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers
2008-09-06, 02:51 #29If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use is the rule.
2008-09-06, 06:55 #30
My music library is completely wav as well. The files are tagged with ID3v2.3 tags and it works just fine. Although there is no defined standard when it comes to tagging wav files, it is possible to tag wav files. The tagging method uses a RIFF chunk to maintain the wav file’s integrity. In the RIFF chunk, which is called “id32”, there is the ID3v2.3 tag.
I use iTunes for ripping and then I run a custom application on my library that writes the tags to the wav files – the information is read from iTunes. It does not rewrite the complete wav files; it just adds the RIFF chunk to the wav file.
Many people on this forum are opposed to wav files and pro flac. But it is all relative. Just make up your own mind about it. If you want to use wav then go for it. It works and your wav files stay intact. Wav is uncompressed CD quality and it can be easily converted to something else if the future requires it. Bandwidth, storage space, etc, is not an issue at all. I have two SB3’s running wireless – runs flawlessly.
For those interested, I have attached a wav sample that contains a ID3v3.2 tag.
Last edited by Pascal Hibon; 2008-09-06 at 07:12.