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    New Qnap firmware strips out image exif data?

    Sorry... this is not strictly a Qnap/Slimserver issue, but it is a possible indicator of a change/bug in the new firmware (and I wouldn't know where else to go)...

    I have noticed that since installing the new firmware any images that are transfered to the 'multimedia' drive do not get their details (name, resolution, file size, file date) displayed on the 'multimedia station' page. The photo information box just states "No EXIF information". Not having the file name displayed is extremely irritating!. Anything transferred prior to the update has all the information displayed as normal.

    To check, I have tried transferring existing images with the data currently displayed off and then back to the Qnap and it appears that the information is lost when the new thumbnail is generated. Has anyone else seen this problem?

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    I'm guessing that it is a side effect of the change in the way SS generates the thumbnails. If i remember right, previous versions used to use HTML for resizing the images, making them look pretty horrible but it was still the same graphic no matter the size. Now however they are actually resized before sending to the browser, the code for re-sizing obviously isn't copying over the EXIF data. You might want to raise a bug for this, but i don't know how feasable it is top copy the EXIF data while re-sizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    I'm guessing that it is a side effect of the change in the way SS generates the thumbnails. If i remember right, previous versions used to use HTML for resizing the images, making them look pretty horrible but it was still the same graphic no matter the size. Now however they are actually resized before sending to the browser, the code for re-sizing obviously isn't copying over the EXIF data. You might want to raise a bug for this, but i don't know how feasable it is top copy the EXIF data while re-sizing.
    I think you've misunderstood me, Funkstar. I have not yet migrated to SS6.5, so I don't think it's a SS problem (if that's what you meant). This problem has occurred since installing the most recent Qnap firmware. However, your explanation may still hold for the Qnap image display functionality...

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    Ok, my mistake, i should have read your post closer

    So what is producing the thumbnails? Is it an photo server app in the TS-101? I have to be honest that i've only ever used my unit for SS, and now even migrated that onto an HTPC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    Ok, my mistake, i should have read your post closer

    So what is producing the thumbnails? Is it an photo server app in the TS-101? I have to be honest that i've only ever used my unit for SS, and now even migrated that onto an HTPC.
    Yes it's the web photo server (called 'Multimedia Station'). In the thumbnail page holding the mouse over a thumbnail did give a pop-up box with the photo information; selecting and displaying an image should have the exif information in a box next to the image - but not any more...

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    exif data is displayed

    I am running Version 1.2.1 build 0822 and thumbnails and exif data are displayed correctly for old and newly uploaded .jpg's

    Maybe you have an issue with your cam software?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman5007 View Post
    I am running Version 1.2.1 build 0822 and thumbnails and exif data are displayed correctly for old and newly uploaded .jpg's

    Maybe you have an issue with your cam software?
    Strange... No, can't be that. I have tried images from a range of sources. I have also checked the new images with viewing software while loaded on the Qnap and the data are still associated with the images, but when they are loaded/updated on the Multimedia Station pages the information is not recognised or logged.

    If no-one else is having this problem I guess I have to conclude that my firmware didn't install correctly. I'll try a reinstall...
    Last edited by happyfishman; 2006-10-07 at 02:32.

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    Reinstalled firmware - still same problem...

    I have established that the data are there but the Qnap image display software has stopped recognising it for images transferred after the update to the 1.2.1 firmware.

    This is really irritating because standard out-of-camera filenames cannot now be seen in full on the thumbnail page and not at all on the full image display page.

    Anyone have any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman5007 View Post
    I am running Version 1.2.1 build 0822 and thumbnails and exif data are displayed correctly for old and newly uploaded .jpg's
    I have just checked my Qnap multimedia option & am able to comfirm that I can also view as per above. Looks like your issue is not Qnap related.

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    Could it be a combination of the software Qnap use to produce the thumbnails and the EXIF data itself? I'm sure i read somewhere that the EXIT data 'standard' isn't very rigid and compatability problem do occur

    How about trying files from a diffrent souce (different DigiCam manufacturer for example) and seeing if those work?

    EDIT: Wikipedia has a good page on this. Appears Exif (*not* EXIF) is quite a fragile set of mets data with some serious disadvantages.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXIF
    Last edited by funkstar; 2006-10-07 at 15:05.

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