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    Qnap TS-101 & SS 6.5 Installation Issues & Updates

    Hi,

    Right some of you have everything working nicely and some of you don't so here are some of my findings.

    1. Patience is a virtue! SS 6.5 takes a lot longer to install and run on re-boot.

    2. When you first install 6.5 it will do a re-index of your music collection - this will take hours to complete if you have a reasonable sized music collection. Your Squeezeboxes will not be useable whilst SS 6.5 is scanning your music collection. If you try and play anything then you will experience stuttering and freezing of your SB.

    3. SS 6.5 runs fine on a TS-101 if you don't use the SS web front end for control. If you just use it for setup then you'll be fine. There is a pause of between 1 and 6 seconds when moving between pages and it depends on which page you go to. The TS-101/201 needs more memory and we are investigating the possibility of upgrading the units to 192Mb which we believe would make the TS-101/201 fly when running SS 6.5. Currently you can free up some resources by switching off some of the other TS-101 features

    4. For those who want to go back cleanly to 6.3.1 then there is a new downgrade tool on www.progressiveav.com/ts101_update. This update/downgrade file will downgrade your TS-101 to 6.3.1 - none of your settings will be kept and your database will be totally cleared. You will also have to re-install any plugins you have installed and use

    5. There is a new All In One Plugins update for SS 6.5 which has the latest AlienBBC and Weather plugins - enjoy!

    If anybody has any further problems either post them or PM me.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultra238a View Post
    Hi,

    Right some of you have everything working nicely and some of you don't so here are some of my findings.

    1. Patience is a virtue! SS 6.5 takes a lot longer to install and run on re-boot.

    2. When you first install 6.5 it will do a re-index of your music collection - this will take hours to complete if you have a reasonable sized music collection. Your Squeezeboxes will not be useable whilst SS 6.5 is scanning your music collection. If you try and play anything then you will experience stuttering and freezing of your SB.

    3. SS 6.5 runs fine on a TS-101 if you don't use the SS web front end for control. If you just use it for setup then you'll be fine. There is a pause of between 1 and 6 seconds when moving between pages and it depends on which page you go to. The TS-101/201 needs more memory and we are investigating the possibility of upgrading the units to 192Mb which we believe would make the TS-101/201 fly when running SS 6.5. Currently you can free up some resources by switching off some of the other TS-101 features

    4. For those who want to go back cleanly to 6.3.1 then there is a new downgrade tool on www.progressiveav.com/ts101_update. This update/downgrade file will downgrade your TS-101 to 6.3.1 - none of your settings will be kept and your database will be totally cleared. You will also have to re-install any plugins you have installed and use

    5. There is a new All In One Plugins update for SS 6.5 which has the latest AlienBBC and Weather plugins - enjoy!

    If anybody has any further problems either post them or PM me.

    Thanks
    Paul,

    Thanks for that. Will try the downgrade file later.My QNAP was left overnight to install 6.5. This morning the disk is still randomly accessing so won't sleep. Stuttering now starts after 3 minutes rather than 1 minute.I never use the web front end for control.The QNAP is used uniquely for Slimserver, so all other QNAP features are, and always have been, disabled.

    Hope this helps with your research into what the problem is.

    Jerry

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    Paul,

    Excellent work. Thanks very much for the speedy update.
    Paul

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    Paul,

    > Excellent work. Thanks very much for the speedy update.

    Seconded.

    Like Jerryacg my TS-101 runs only Slimserver, all other features that can be switched off are.

    I'd installed 6.5 and waited 'till it had finished scanning my collection and could tell me how many tracks/albums/artists I had. I then installed Alien BBC and tested playback of some FLAC files and the Radio 1 stream. I had no issues with stuttering during playback though my test only lasted about 10 mins.

    I'm not bothered by the slowdown of the web interface but I am bothered by the fact that the TS-101 won't spin down it's disk - that's why I'll be going back to 6.3.1 tonight.

    I'd be interested in a memory upgrade if it improved performance and let the TS-101 spin down it's disk whilst running 6.5+. Any idea how much such an upgrade would cost?

    Cheers,

    Rich

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    All feed back greatly appreciated.

    I don't know how much the memory upgrade will cost or what the implications are going to be yet - I'll update you all as soon as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultra238a View Post
    All feed back greatly appreciated.

    I don't know how much the memory upgrade will cost or what the implications are going to be yet - I'll update you all as soon as I know.
    Would it be an "easy fix"? Sounds time consuming and expensive....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultra238a View Post
    All feed back greatly appreciated.

    I don't know how much the memory upgrade will cost or what the implications are going to be yet - I'll update you all as soon as I know.
    Even though I have only had my TS101 a month I quite liked the sound of upping the memory, on telling my wife this "good" news, she told me, that's the problem with technology, always out of date!

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    The memory isn't going to be expensive, I think the installation cost will be were it is at.

    We don't have the facilities to do it so we will have to farm it out to a 3rd party.

    Currently we need to know if it is going to work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seineseeker View Post
    Even though I have only had my TS101 a month I quite liked the sound of upping the memory, on telling my wife this "good" news, she told me, that's the problem with technology, always out of date!
    But it's the rate of change that keeps us interested...


    ... and with good excuses to buy new toys!

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    My setup seems to be working OK (fx: sound of wood being touched)
    Except for Lazysearch which seems to be hit or miss, at the moment it won't find anything....

    I have two concerns about the memory upgrade though.
    Why is there only 64Mb attached at the moment? Is there any restriction on the rest of the board that would stop more than 64Mb being used? (I'm not electronically minded)

    If we upgrade now to add an extra 128Mb, could it possibly run out again with the next version of SS?? Would it be possible to replace the chip with a 'socket' of some sort?

    Thanks for your feedback though, it is much appreciated.

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