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    Quote Originally Posted by radish
    I just wanted to comment on this. There is certainly no obligation on any customer to fix a problem, and likewise there's nothing saying you can't request a change/fix - that's what bugs.slimdevices.com is for. However, fixes via the "official" channels can take time, as issues have to be prioritized vs limited resources. All kdf was saying is that if this issue is such a problem for you, and it's not being resolved as quickly as you desire, there is the option of fixing it yourself. Your other option is simply to wait. With most software products, you only have the second option.
    at some poiunt, did i say anything to give you the impression that i thought any differently from anything you just wrote?

    i don't recall demanding anything right now this second, i merely made my case that something was inadequite... and it was the resistence to that fact, in the various forms of the replies, which baffles me.

    you go on (as others have) to admit that i am in fact, right, the explanation should be better and stated. but then u turnaround and act as if i've done something wrong to point this out.

    i don't get it.

    the problem for me was fixed when kdf imparted the knowledge to me. SS should have done that in their explanation. all i have done here, is said in no uncertain terms, i think SD made a bad oversight which imo is glaring, insofar as it relates to the worth of this function, one they INTEND users to use if they so choose.

    its not about rushing to fix it, its not about how many people use it, its not about the marketplace or requesting new functions or changes to the design or anything else. its about FIXING a BONER. simple as that. i don't consider myself a heretic to say SD pulled one, and should fix it.

    Quote Originally Posted by radish
    While I agree that the extra verbage probably should be there,
    probably? as opposed to what... not being there?

    this couldn't be more clear cut. why waver?

    Quote Originally Posted by radish
    I disagree that it's ommission is "huge, glaring and ridiculous". It's actually pretty small, subtle and trivial. It's not in 6.3, and there's nothing that can be done about that - but if someone raises a bug ticket it may be included into a future version of the 6.3.x branch. Of course if 6.5 comes along quickly we may not need it.
    its huge, glaring, and ridiculous IF you want to make use of the function. in that context, its huge.

    i agree in the overall picture, its not such a big deal, i never said it was. i was speaking within the context of the utility of this fucntion, and i stand by what i said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siduhe
    This made me laugh out loud. And not in a bad way, or in anyway trying to denigrate the contribution that Mr Sinatra is making. But I think it hits the nail on the head.

    It's impossible to come up with a product that is infinitely variable and configurable to meet individual likes and dislikes, whilst keeping it simple and accessible to the average user.

    Personally, I think Slim do a pretty good job of "out of the box" for the average user (though arguably not as good as Sonos or Roku) but with plenty of configurability for the people who want to go further. But then I would think that - I'm one of the people who want to go a bit further.

    What I find difficult is to know how to respond to someone who has a query which can be resolved, but the resolution requires some modification of their setup, which they aren't willing to do.

    "But I don't want to do that" is a perfectly valid response, but it seems to me that the answer is then "fine, file a bug and see if you can get enough people who feel the same way to vote for it and bring it to the attention of the development team".
    just to be clear, i don't even know if what i'm saying qualifies as a bug. i just think a line saying "one must 'clear and scan' their library after updating this option" is necessary.

    kdf seems to disagree. and i can't fathom that for the life of me. but, regardless i appreciate the help i get.

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    Re: Artwork Malfunction? SS 6.3

    On 7/10/06, MrSinatra <
    MrSinatra.2ara1b1152579001 (AT) no-m...limdevices.com> wrote:...

    just to be clear, i don't even know if what i'm saying qualifies as a
    > bug. i just think a line saying "one must 'clear and scan' their
    > library after updating this option" is necessary.
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    > kdf seems to disagree. and i can't fathom that for the life of me.
    > but, regardless i appreciate the help i get.
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    >

    My point was that all told, everyone in this post has probably spent 90
    minutes or more writing and reading paragraphs and paragraphs of pointless
    prose.

    I want to clarify that I am not someone who spends any time working with the
    Slimserver code -- I do know a decent bit of Perl, but Slimserver is over my
    head, and I don't have the time to learn it. My only other advantage is that
    my server is on Linux, so I already had the source instead of having to go
    download it separately. Once that's done, the Windows or Mac search
    functions would do just as well as grep does here, only a bit slower.

    Using username "jack".
    Authenticating with public key "rsa-key-20050524" from agent
    Last login: Sun Jul 9 21:28:03 2006 from 192.168.2.237
    Have a lot of fun...
    jack@felix:~> cd /usr/local/slimserver/
    jack@felix:/usr/local/slimserver> sudo grep -rin "Browse by Artwork" .
    ../HTML/EN/html/docs/artwork.html:21:the SlimServer interface, and in the
    "Browse by artwork" section to
    ../HTML/EN/html/docs/artwork.html:161:Browse by artwork and status BOTH scale
    the same image
    ../HTML/EN/html/docs/artwork.html:162:file found for Thumb. By default, the
    browse by artwork contrains to 100x100,
    ../strings.txt:3982: EN For Browse By Artwork thumbnails, the server
    will search the same default image files as above, and in ID3 Tags.
    However, if you wish to use the variable filename feature, or specify your
    own filename, enter that here.
    ../strings.txt:4052: EN Browse By Artwork
    ../Changelog5.html:975: <li>Kevin Deane-Freeman added a great Browse By
    Artwork facility.</li>
    ../Changelog6.html:1322: <li><a href="
    http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=896">#896</a> - Browse by
    artwork halts on accented characters.
    ../Changelog6.html:1717: <li><a href="
    http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=896">#896</a> - Browse by
    artwork halts on accented characters.

    Hmm, looks like strings.txt line 3982 is where you want to put your warning.

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    i don't think pointing out broken things like this is pointless.

    i do think when people tell me i should just fix it myself and otherwise keep quiet, that is pointless.

    also, the code there is greek to me, and of no use. BUT even if i fixed my own copy, (which i now no longer need to do as i shall never forget this experience), but even if i did, what good would that do anyone else?

    thx all the same, -mdw

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