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    Tags cut off in slim - Mp3Tag

    Hi

    I'm getting some strange tags cut off problems with slimserver (running 6.2.1 on a NAS). I have edited the tags with MP3Tag and doen a complete re-scan, although they appear correct in MP3Tag, they appear shortened in slim.

    I have noticed the problem with album titles and song titles.

    Any ideas??

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    Tags cut off in slim - Mp3Tag

    Are you using ID3v1 tags? They have a 30-character
    limit.

    Mp3tag will cache what you enter so it looks like
    things are OK, but if you write ID3v1 tags, when you
    exit the program and go back in, they will be cut off
    at the 30 character limit.

    Since only 30 characters are stored in ID3v1 tags,
    SlimServer will also see the cut off tags.

    Change to ID3v2 and remove the ID3v1 tags.

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    wrote:

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    > Hi
    >
    > I'm getting some strange tags cut off problems with
    > slimserver (running
    > 6.2.1 on a NAS). I have edited the tags with MP3Tag
    > and doen a
    > complete re-scan, although they appear correct in
    > MP3Tag, they appear
    > shortened in slim.
    >
    > I have noticed the problem with album titles and
    > song titles.
    >
    > Any ideas??
    >
    >
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    > bossanova808
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    Tags cut off in slim - Mp3Tag

    BTW these changes are made very easily using Mp3tag
    configured like so:

    http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...4&postcount=19

    It'll tell you which tags are ID3v1. Set it to write
    only ID3v2 and remove everything but ID3v2, save all
    the tags, then remove the ID3v1 tags.

    --- Mark Lanctot <marklanctot (AT) yahoo (DOT) ca> wrote:

    > Are you using ID3v1 tags? They have a 30-character
    > limit.
    >
    > Mp3tag will cache what you enter so it looks like
    > things are OK, but if you write ID3v1 tags, when you
    > exit the program and go back in, they will be cut
    > off
    > at the 30 character limit.
    >
    > Since only 30 characters are stored in ID3v1 tags,
    > SlimServer will also see the cut off tags.
    >
    > Change to ID3v2 and remove the ID3v1 tags.
    >
    > --- bossanova808
    > <bossanova808.224btn (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > I'm getting some strange tags cut off problems

    > with
    > > slimserver (running
    > > 6.2.1 on a NAS). I have edited the tags with

    > MP3Tag
    > > and doen a
    > > complete re-scan, although they appear correct in
    > > MP3Tag, they appear
    > > shortened in slim.
    > >
    > > I have noticed the problem with album titles and
    > > song titles.
    > >
    > > Any ideas??
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > bossanova808
    > >

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    Ok, you're definitely on the right track, I've told MP3Tag not to write ID3v1 tags. I'm concerned about removing the APE tags as I'm not sure where foobar and metaflac write their replaygain tags and don't want to lose that info accidentally. That is I currently have it set to write both ID3v2 tags and APE tags.

    So - thanks for your help and one more queston - in what place are the replaygain tags stored and will they be left unaffected by MP3Tag??
    Last edited by bossanova808; 2006-01-24 at 16:14.

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    Hmmm - if I have it set to 'remove ID3v1' under the options->tags->both of them, shouldn't it completely remove the ID3 v1 tags? I now have ID3v1 ID3v2 and APE all in the files...

    Odd.

    Is there a way to tell slimserver to only read ID3v1 if ID3v2 is not present, or similar?

    (as for replaygain in flac, this goes into vorbis comments I notice, so should not be changed by any tag operations).
    Last edited by bossanova808; 2006-01-24 at 16:54.

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    Re: Tags cut off in slim - Mp3Tag

    First, don't remove the APE tags because that's where
    ReplayGain data is stored.

    To remove ID3v1 tags, first MAKE SURE you have the
    data saved in ID3v2 tags. Since you now have both, it
    looks like you've done this.

    Now press the Remove Tags button. I know, you'd think
    that it removes all your tags, but if you've set your
    remove preferences to remove ID3v1, when you press the
    Remove Tags button you'll remove only your ID3v1 tags.

    --- bossanova808
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    > Hmmm - if I have it set to 'remove ID3v1' under the
    > options->tags->both
    > of them, shouldn't it completely remove the ID3 v1
    > tags? I now have
    > ID3v1 ID3v2 and APE all in the files...
    >
    > Odd.
    >
    >
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Lanctot
    First, don't remove the APE tags because that's where
    ReplayGain data is stored.
    That's news to me. I have added RG tags to all of my tracks (using foobar) and I don't have any APE tags that I'm aware of.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Lanctot
    To remove ID3v1 tags, first MAKE SURE you have the
    data saved in ID3v2 tags. Since you now have both, it
    looks like you've done this.
    Is it necessary to remove ID3v1 tags? If both v1 & v2 are present doesn't SB display v2 tags?

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    Re: Tags cut off in slim - Mp3Tag

    --- zooropa320
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    wrote:

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    > Mark Lanctot Wrote:
    > > First, don't remove the APE tags because that's

    > where
    > > ReplayGain data is stored.
    > >

    >
    > That's news to me. I have added RG tags to all of
    > my tracks (using
    > foobar) and I don't have any APE tags that I'm aware
    > of.
    >


    This is how MP3Gain stores ReplayGain data in MP3s.
    ReplayGain tags in FLACs merge right in with the other
    tags.

    >
    > Mark Lanctot Wrote:
    > >
    > > To remove ID3v1 tags, first MAKE SURE you have the
    > > data saved in ID3v2 tags. Since you now have

    > both, it
    > > looks like you've done this.
    > >

    >
    > Is it necessary to remove ID3v1 tags? If both v1 &
    > v2 are present
    > doesn't SB display v2 tags?


    I thought so too, but SlimServer didn't display more
    than 30 characters for me until I completely blew away
    all my ID3v1 tags.

    It seems to check ID3v1 tags first.







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    Ok the remove tag thing worked well. I still think the flac RG info is in VorbisComments - are these inside the APE tags then?

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    Re: Tags cut off in slim - Mp3Tag

    I'm not sure where the FLAC RG data is. Mp3tag just
    says "FLAC" regarding the type of tags used in FLAC.
    Perhaps it is in VobrisComments. At any rate, the
    FLAC encoder using the "--replay-gain" switch puts it
    in the same place foobar does, because the tags are
    visible and editable in foobar.

    MP3Gain stores RG data in APEv2 tags in MP3s. If you
    write ID3v2 tags with Mp3tag, then send it through
    MP3Gain, you'll see the APEv2 tags when you open it in
    Mp3tag again.

    Incidentally you can see these tags with a hex editor.
    Look at the end of the file.

    --- bossanova808
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    > Ok the remove tag thing worked well. I still think
    > the flac RG info is
    > in VorbisComments - are these inside the APE tags
    > then?
    >
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