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    108Mbps Support

    I am using one of the latest Netgear Routers (WPN824) with MIMO G technology and it would appear that the SB3 will not work at all when the router is set to 108Mbps static or automatic. It works well on standard g mode but since you have to set the whole router to standard g mode that means other devices that have no problem connecting at 108Mbps are now throttled back to 54mbps.

    My questions is does anyone know when this will be supported and/or if there is a workaround?
    Thanks,

    Rod

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    108Mbps Support

    These "108" or "125" Mbps implementations are
    manufacturer-specific. That is, in order to get
    "108 Mbps" (you won't anyway) all your equipment
    needs to be Netgear and all need to have 108 Mbps
    capability. It won't work with other
    manufacturers or even the same manufacturers'
    equipment without the capability.

    Since each radio chipset manufacturer (Atheros,
    Broadcom, Intersil, Marvell etc.) uses their own
    proprietary methods and since each does not
    publicly release these methods they won't ever
    work together.

    The SB2/3 uses an Atheros radio chipset, see

    http://www.slimdevices.com/photos/inside_squeezebox2/


    like D-Link's Atheros-powered routers/APs which
    have "125 Mbps" on the more expensive models, but
    the "125 Mbps" radio chipset is more expensive and
    it still wouldn't work with other manufacturer's
    proprietary speed-boosting methods anyway.

    Sorry.

    rmasson wrote:
    > I am using one of the latest Netgear Routers

    (WPN824) with MIMO G
    > technology and it would appear that the SB3 will not

    work at all when
    > the router is set to 108Mbps static or automatic.

    It doe works great
    > on standard g mode but since you have to set the

    whole router to
    > standard g mode that means other devices that have

    no problem
    > connecting at 108Mbps are now throttled back to

    54mbps.
    >
    > My questions is does anyone know when this will be

    supported and/or if
    > there is a workaround.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Rod
    >
    >


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    Maybe a wireless mimo bridge connected to the ethernet port on the SB should work?

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    Just FYI, I'm also using a WPN824 set to auto 108mbps - although i don't have any devices that can actually support this standard.

    I don't have any problems getting the squeezebox to connect. Try update the firmware, there is a new beta version on the netgear website.

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    What version of WPN824 router firmare are you running? I just downloaded Version V2.0.15 from their website which is apparently the latest and SB3 still does not work on and Auto 108Mbps. What actually happens is the music streams but is very choppy with drop outs every other second.

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    Rod,

    I'm using the same Netgear router with a SB2 and it works perfectly with a 85% signal. I do not get 108 based on netgears calculations but Windows says I do. I also am having no trouble connecting with other brand of wireless G cards anywhere in a fairly large 2 story home. SSID is set to broadcast and I'm using WPA.

    I'm very pleased with it actually and recommend the router to others.

    Jim


    Quote Originally Posted by rmasson
    I am using one of the latest Netgear Routers (WPN824) with MIMO G technology and it would appear that the SB3 will not work at all when the router is set to 108Mbps static or automatic. It works well on standard g mode but since you have to set the whole router to standard g mode that means other devices that have no problem connecting at 108Mbps are now throttled back to 54mbps.

    My questions is does anyone know when this will be supported and/or if there is a workaround?
    Thanks,

    Rod

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    Netgear WGT624 Wireless 108 router & SB3

    I have a Netgear WGT624 V2 wireless router updated with the latest release firmware (4.2.10).

    There are several other devices/computers on the network with network interfaces made by various manufacturers. Each is able to connect to the router when set to "auto" mode EXCEPT THE SB3.

    I spent a full day isolating every computer and trying various settings. The result?

    11g connects at 11g
    11b connects at 11b
    108 connects at 108
    EXCEPT the SB3, which simply cannot establish a connection whent the router is set to auto.

    The temporary solution is to set the router to 11g/11b instead of auto, but this completely disallows 108 users taking advantage of their hardware when the Squeezebox is not on.

    I do not see this as a "proprietary standards" issue because all other vendor NICs are able to make conntections in auto mode at 11b or 11g.


    Any ideas out there?
    Thanks!

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    A couple settings...

    There are a couple settings that I've had trouble with that you might check. One is the extended range option and the other is right next to it and I don't remember what it was exactly. I'm at work and can't check. If you have them enabled, try turning them off. My RangeMax doesn't work well if they are on but works great with them turned off.

    HTH

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Holtz
    There are a couple settings that I've had trouble with that you might check. One is the extended range option and the other is right next to it and I don't remember what it was exactly. I'm at work and can't check. If you have them enabled, try turning them off. My RangeMax doesn't work well if they are on but works great with them turned off.

    HTH

    Jim

    Changing the range setting on a WGT624 has no effect. Only disabling the auto setting allows a connection.

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