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  • Orb
    Member
    • Apr 2005
    • 81

    Slim Devices at Amazon

    So I go to every UK reseller listed on this site. I email them, none of them reply. Most only sell the new SB. A couple list the SB2 but then you find out they have no stock. I'd rather save £50 and get another SB2 especially as there is really no difference between 2 & 3 other than looks.

    Personally I think slim devices and the SB product are brilliant but it seems to me that any kid with a website and a bedroom for stock can be a SD reseller.

    Isn't it time SD moved up a gear and got a proper distribution network going? The products should be available from Amazon and retailers that reach the masses.

    But for now, where can I get a SB2 from?
  • Patrick Cosson
    Slim Devices: VP Sales & Marketing
    • Apr 2005
    • 108

    #2
    Slim Devices at Amazon

    On 11/23/05 8:22 AM, "Orb" <Orb.1yyjzn (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:

    >
    > So I go to every UK reseller listed on this site. I email them, none of
    > them reply. Most only sell the new SB. A couple list the SB2 but then
    > you find out they have no stock. I'd rather save £50 and get another
    > SB2 especially as there is really no difference between 2 & 3 other
    > than looks.
    >
    > Personally I think slim devices and the SB product are brilliant but it
    > seems to me that any kid with a website and a bedroom for stock can be a
    > SD reseller.
    >
    > Isn't it time SD moved up a gear and got a proper distribution network
    > going? The products should be available from Amazon and retailers that
    > reach the masses.
    >
    > But for now, where can I get a SB2 from?
    >


    Contact cooltopia.co.uk...they have some SB2 in-stock. Otherwise, you can
    order from Slim Devices directly.

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    • Orb
      Member
      • Apr 2005
      • 81

      #3
      Cooltopia.co.uk have them but they wont ship to Ireland.

      The only Irish reseller (http://www.gadgetsonline.ie/) don't seem to be bothered to have a website.

      You see my point? Why cannot Slim stop faffing about with these bedroom bandits and get their products with a proper retailer like Amazon?

      Yes I could order it direct from SD but then I get hit with not only the huge UPS postage costs but also 21% Vat upon arrival.

      You know, Im feeling really quite p***ed off!!!
      Last edited by Orb; 2005-11-25, 14:42.

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      • gingerneil
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2005
        • 146

        #4
        ebay ?? You'll save more than £50 too !

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        • ultra238a
          Senior Member
          • May 2005
          • 368

          #5
          We do ship to Ireland, delivery is £10.

          You need to call us though to place the order as we don't process Irish orders online. Call us on 0871 871 9747

          Thanks

          Paul
          Progressives Consumer Electronics Ltd

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          • Stuart Cooper

            #6
            Re: Slim Devices at Amazon

            We ship to Ireland - although Rep of Ireland costs the same as mainland
            Europe with DHL (approx £35) - Northern Ireland is our standard free
            delivery on Squeezebox. If you'd like to buy one from us, and you're in RoI,
            you can order online and choose the EU Delivery option.

            Would you really prefer to deal with the faceless Amazon, rather than a
            company that knows the product and can help you with technical and pre-sales
            queries? You won't see them generating interest and championing the product
            in the UK or anywhere else. I've had the Squeezebox on CH5's Gadget Show and
            reviewed in a number of magazines; I also made the first contact with Radio
            IO and Radio Paradise, although initially neither were particularly
            interested - now RadioIO is a part of the interface!

            With regard to eBay, we've had more than one call from customers who've
            purchased an SB2 from eBay only to discover it was an SB1 on arrival. Doh!

            Stuart.


            P.S. Will ask my missus if she thinks I'm a "bedroom bandit" - am expecting
            laughter sadly. :-(

            -----Original Message-----
            From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
            [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Orb
            Sent: 25 November 2005 13:23
            To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
            Subject: [slim] Re: Slim Devices at Amazon


            Cooltopia.co.uk have them but the wont ship to Ireland.

            The only Irish reseller (http://www.gadgetsonline.ie/) don't seem to be
            bothered to have a website.

            You see my point? Why cannot Slim stop faffing about with these bedroom
            bandits and get their products with a proper retailer like Amazon?

            Yes I could order it direct from SD but then I get hit with not only the
            huge UPS postage costs but also 21% Vat upon arrival.

            You know, Im feeling really quite pissed off!!!


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            • Stuart Cooper

              #7
              Re: Slim Devices at Amazon

              See "Orb" - we’re fighting over you now! LOL

              Stu.

              -----Original Message-----
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              [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of ultra238a
              Sent: 25 November 2005 16:01
              To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
              Subject: [slim] Re: Slim Devices at Amazon


              We do ship to Ireland, delivery is £10.

              You need to call us though to place the order as we don't process Irish
              orders online. Call us on 0871 871 9747

              Thanks

              Paul
              Progressives Consumer Electronics Ltd


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              • Orb
                Member
                • Apr 2005
                • 81

                #8
                Originally posted by gingerneil
                ebay ?? You'll save more than £50 too !
                I've been watching ebay and I have concluded that 2nd hand SB's often sell for more than new ones!!! Some guy bid £156 the other day for a SB2. It didn't even include the £10 P&P. Mad, quite mad.

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                • Orb
                  Member
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 81

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ultra238a
                  We do ship to Ireland, delivery is £10.

                  You need to call us though to place the order as we don't process Irish orders online. Call us on 0871 871 9747

                  Thanks

                  Paul
                  Progressives Consumer Electronics Ltd
                  Paul, do you have a website?
                  Do you have SB2 wired in stock?
                  How much is it?
                  Where are you based?
                  £10 delivery!!! I am warming to you

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                  • Orb
                    Member
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 81

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Stuart Cooper
                    We ship to Ireland - although Rep of Ireland costs the same as mainland
                    Europe with DHL (approx £35) - Northern Ireland is our standard free
                    delivery on Squeezebox. If you'd like to buy one from us, and you're in RoI,
                    you can order online and choose the EU Delivery option.

                    Would you really prefer to deal with the faceless Amazon, rather than a
                    company that knows the product and can help you with technical and pre-sales
                    queries? You won't see them generating interest and championing the product
                    in the UK or anywhere else. I've had the Squeezebox on CH5's Gadget Show and
                    reviewed in a number of magazines; I also made the first contact with Radio
                    IO and Radio Paradise, although initially neither were particularly
                    interested - now RadioIO is a part of the interface!

                    With regard to eBay, we've had more than one call from customers who've
                    purchased an SB2 from eBay only to discover it was an SB1 on arrival. Doh!

                    Stuart.


                    P.S. Will ask my missus if she thinks I'm a "bedroom bandit" - am expecting
                    laughter sadly. :-(

                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
                    [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Orb
                    Sent: 25 November 2005 13:23
                    To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
                    Subject: [slim] Re: Slim Devices at Amazon


                    Cooltopia.co.uk have them but the wont ship to Ireland.

                    The only Irish reseller (http://www.gadgetsonline.ie/) don't seem to be
                    bothered to have a website.

                    You see my point? Why cannot Slim stop faffing about with these bedroom
                    bandits and get their products with a proper retailer like Amazon?

                    Yes I could order it direct from SD but then I get hit with not only the
                    huge UPS postage costs but also 21% Vat upon arrival.

                    You know, Im feeling really quite pissed off!!!


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                    Stuart,

                    1. I went to your website and got excited when I found SB2 wired listed. I clicked on it and got "NO LONGER AVAILABLE - NOW REPLACED BY NEW SQUEEZEBOX".
                    If its no longer available why bloody list it???

                    Not a good start.

                    2. How on earth can you charge £35 to send it less than 150 miles south of the Northern Ireland UK Border?

                    3. I would prefer to deal with the "faceless Amazon" as you put it because I can go to their website, order it, have it turn up within 48 hours without any fuss. I mean, I've been looking to buy (Credit card waiting) for the best part of a month now. How bloody difficult should it be to buy the product?

                    I'm not having a personal dig at you Stu and forgive me if my tone comes across that way. I am just very VERY frustrated.

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                    • Stuart Cooper

                      #11
                      Re: Slim Devices at Amazon

                      I understand your frustration... )

                      The old SB2 is still listed as so many external links point to it, so rather
                      than present folk with a "page not found" screen when they've been directed
                      there, it's simply left there for the transition period, to provide a
                      pointer to the new version. The SB2 has not been available to any of us in
                      the UK since the new SB3 was released.

                      The high shipping cost to RoI is indeed ridiculous - I've had that
                      conversation with DHL, but it's their tariff - I'm just having to pass it
                      on. They also charge the same for Jersey and Guernsey - and they have UK
                      postcodes! I've shipped to customers' friends or relatives in Norhern
                      Ireland before now, so that they can pick them up from there.

                      Many, many of my customers will tell you that they have ordered one day and
                      had a Slimp3, SB1 or SB2 in their hands the next morning. By and large,
                      that's the norm - except when new models are released and we all have to
                      wait. C'mon guys - someone attest to that for me... )

                      Stu.

                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
                      [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Orb
                      Sent: 25 November 2005 16:33
                      To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
                      Subject: [slim] Re: Slim Devices at Amazon


                      Stuart Cooper Wrote:
                      > We ship to Ireland - although Rep of Ireland costs the same as
                      > mainland Europe with DHL (approx £35) - Northern Ireland is our
                      > standard free delivery on Squeezebox. If you'd like to buy one from
                      > us, and you're in RoI, you can order online and choose the EU Delivery
                      > option.
                      >
                      > Would you really prefer to deal with the faceless Amazon, rather than
                      > a company that knows the product and can help you with technical and
                      > pre-sales queries? You won't see them generating interest and
                      > championing the product in the UK or anywhere else. I've had the
                      > Squeezebox on CH5's Gadget Show and reviewed in a number of magazines;
                      > I also made the first contact with Radio IO and Radio Paradise,
                      > although initially neither were particularly interested - now RadioIO
                      > is a part of the interface!
                      >
                      > With regard to eBay, we've had more than one call from customers
                      > who've purchased an SB2 from eBay only to discover it was an SB1 on
                      > arrival.
                      > Doh!
                      >
                      > Stuart.
                      > www.multitask-computing.co.uk
                      >
                      > P.S. Will ask my missus if she thinks I'm a "bedroom bandit" - am
                      > expecting laughter sadly. :-(
                      >
                      > -----Original Message-----
                      > From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
                      > [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of
                      > Orb
                      > Sent: 25 November 2005 13:23
                      > To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
                      > Subject: [slim] Re: Slim Devices at Amazon
                      >
                      >
                      > Cooltopia.co.uk have them but the wont ship to Ireland.
                      >
                      > The only Irish reseller (http://www.gadgetsonline.ie/) don't seem to
                      > be bothered to have a website.
                      >
                      > You see my point? Why cannot Slim stop faffing about with these
                      > bedroom bandits and get their products with a proper retailer like
                      > Amazon?
                      >
                      > Yes I could order it direct from SD but then I get hit with not only
                      > the huge UPS postage costs but also 21% Vat upon arrival.
                      >
                      > You know, Im feeling really quite pissed off!!!
                      >
                      >
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                      Stuart,

                      1. I went to your website and got excited when I found SB2 wired listed. I
                      clicked on it and got "NO LONGER AVAILABLE - NOW REPLACED BY NEW
                      SQUEEZEBOX".
                      If its no longer available why bloody list it???

                      Not a good start.

                      2. How on earth can you charge £35 to send it less than 150 miles south of
                      the Northern Ireland UK Border?

                      3. I would prefer to deal with the "faceless Amazon" as you put it because I
                      can go to their website, order it, have it turn up within 48 hours without
                      any fuss. I mean, I've been looking to buy (Credit card
                      waiting) for the best part of a month now. How bloody difficult should it be
                      to buy the product?

                      I'm not having a personal dig at you Stu and forgive me if my tone comes
                      across that way. I am just very VERY frustrated.


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                      • Orb
                        Member
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 81

                        #12
                        I just got some speakers delivered from the UK today via DHL. Postage cost £20 and these speakers are a lot heavier and larger than a SB2 so I don't know what to think. Yer man Paul is saying £10.
                        I don't mind paying say £15 for postage.

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                        • Fifer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2005
                          • 753

                          #13
                          It's possible that if your speakers came from a large organisation (particularly one with an international presence), they will have negotiated more favourable Irish shipping rates than a smaller specialist outfit can. It's also possible that the vendor is subsidising the shipping but bumping the cost of the product. Paul probably doesn't use DHL but it may be that Stuart gets a good UK shipping deal from DHL where most of his customers are.

                          EDIT: The speakers didn't come from Creative did they? Their fulfillment centre is in Ireland.

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                          • Orb
                            Member
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 81

                            #14
                            Speakers came from an individual from ebay.

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                            • Fifer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2005
                              • 753

                              #15
                              Then Stuart maybe needs to talk to DHL to find out why an individual can negotiate better shipping terms to Ireland for heavy items than a company (all be it a small one) shipping small stuff.

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