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    Senior Member Yannzola's Avatar
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    A little off topic...

    Sorry for barging in on the Developers list.
    Quick question for kdf. Have you considered making the font size user scalable? All you'd need to do (CSS wise) is set the size as a percent value... of course, I have no idea how the back end is put together and if this is even feasible... but it would be nice for those with less then perfect vision.

    I find that 70% usually renders as 11px on screen. 90% as 10px, 120% as 13px... etc.

    Also, I mentioned this before, but would you consider making a more "compact" version of fishbone optimized for those of us still at 800x600? Or, ideally, adapt the existing template to accommodate lower resolutions. You'd only need to tweak a few variables:

    1- allow the "search for songs" dropdown and "for" text field to break to a second line below the "browse artist" dropdown when the frame is collapsed.

    2- add just a bit (4px?) of margin between the (sleep) "Player Settings Undock, etc." links in the right frame (so they don't scrunch together into a single unit)

    3- add just a bit (4px?) of margin around the "|" seperating the REPEAT: , SHUFFLE:, and PLAYER: areas. Again, to prevent scrunch.

    Or... feel free to ignore any of this ;-)

    Thanks!
    y.
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    NOT a Slim Devices Employee kdf's Avatar
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    Re: Updated Fishbone skin, with alt styles

    Quoting Yannzola <Yannzola.1sjo6o (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

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    > Sorry for barging in on the Developers list.
    > Quick question for kdf. Have you considered making the font size user
    > scalable?


    I'd consider switching to FireFox, personally. I use it, and for me, the fonts
    are already scalable.

    > All you'd need to do (CSS wise) is set the size as a percent
    > value... of course, I have no idea how the back end is put together and
    > if this is even feasible... but it would be nice for those with less
    > then perfect vision.
    >
    > I find that 70% usually renders as 11px on screen. 90% as 10px, 120% as
    > 13px... etc.


    I'll think about it, but I'd be hesitant to be messing with fonts again. They
    were problematic to line up in the first place. I'm not familiar with the %
    sizing in CSS so not knowing how it reacts in all the other browsers is also a
    setback.

    >
    > Also, I mentioned this before, but would you consider making a more
    > "compact" version of fishbone optimized for those of us still at
    > 800x600? Or, ideally, adapt the existing template to accommodate lower
    > resolutions.


    > You'd only need to tweak a few variables:


    let me just point out now, that I really dont get good feelings when any request
    starts out like this. If its that simple, I'd expect to see a patch instead
    The only reason I took the steps on this recent update was that a lot of work
    went into it beforehand by another user.

    > 1- allow the "search for songs" dropdown and "for" text field to break
    > to a second line below the "browse artist" dropdown when the frame is
    > collapsed.
    >
    > 2- add just a bit (4px?) of margin between the (sleep) "Player Settings
    > Undock, etc." links in the right frame (so they don't scrunch together
    > into a single unit)
    >
    > 3- add just a bit (4px?) of margin around the "|" seperating the
    > REPEAT: , SHUFFLE:, and PLAYER: areas. Again, to prevent scrunch.


    To be totally frank, I had and continue to have very little motivation in
    continually tweaking the skin. A skin can't work in every case, and I'm soon
    going to have a lot less time to spend tweaking. Since you do seem to have the
    details worked out, why not experiment with it for your own use? I'd be more
    than happy to help merge any changes into something that can be shared. It
    sounds almost like you've tried it already. If so, feel free to post the
    tweaked version (hopefully already tested with Firefox, IE and safari if at all
    possible)

    Oh, and a sidenote: some of that scrunch is deliberate (or as a side effect of
    what I did want). The start of the playlist on the right side has to shift to
    specific heights depending on whether artwork is shown in the top part.
    Letting the other item wrap, was not an option. Having them go off the screen
    was not ideal. Scrunching isn't either, but at least it sizes to fit while the
    browser window is at least large enough to fit. I never intended the skin for
    small windows. Other skins are better optimised for that. Fishbone is set
    toward a pile of information all in one view. What I have always thought would
    be cool is a single-pane version of Fishbone, much like HandHeld is for the
    default skin.

    Sorry to be a bit of a stonewall on this, but I'd forgotten how painful it was
    to deal with cross browser. This recent tweak has cost me too much sleep
    already, and it hasn't even made a nightly build.

    -kdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdf

    Sorry to be a bit of a stonewall on this, but I'd forgotten how painful it was
    to deal with cross browser. This recent tweak has cost me too much sleep
    already, and it hasn't even made a nightly build.

    -kdf
    No prob, kdf! I'll work on some of the CSS styling myself, test 'em... and send them over your way.

    Q:Why in the world would you even consider supporting IE4? Who in their right mind still uses it?

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    Re: Updated Fishbone skin, with alt styles

    Quoting Yannzola <Yannzola.1sjq1b (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

    >
    > No prob, kdf! I'll work on some of the CSS styling myself, test 'em...
    > and send them over your way.


    cool.

    >
    > Q:Why in the world would you even consider supporting IE4? Who in their
    > right mind still uses it?


    wouldn't be in MY plan. I believe you must be referring to a response I gave
    based on a link that Jacob suggested. The link went to a page outlining a
    number of quirks to be wary of when switching styles.

    -kdf

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