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    Flac or Apple Lossless?

    Hello audiophiles,

    I have been using Apple Lossless with my Squeezebox. The Squeezebox is connected digitally to either a TACT system or an Audio Note DAC. The sound has been very good.

    One of the reasons I like Apple Lossless is that it is all very well managed thru the iTunes application.

    Would there be any improvement in changing over to FLAC? I look forward to your comments.

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    Flac or Apple Lossless?

    On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 13:57 -0700, audiomex wrote:
    > I have been using Apple Lossless with my Squeezebox. The Squeezebox is
    > connected digitally to either a TACT system or an Audio Note DAC. The
    > sound has been very good.
    > Would there be any improvement in changing over to FLAC? I look forward
    > to your comments.



    Lossless is lossless. The whole point is to recreate the original
    signal. By definition, once you have the original, you are done.

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    flac

    As I rip cds and intend to keep the files for a long time I prefer flac. I have greater faith in an open source format still be supported in 10-20 years.

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    Flac or Apple Lossless?

    On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 13:57 -0700, audiomex wrote:
    > Hello audiophiles,
    >
    > I have been using Apple Lossless with my Squeezebox. The Squeezebox is
    > connected digitally to either a TACT system or an Audio Note DAC. The
    > sound has been very good.
    >
    > One of the reasons I like Apple Lossless is that it is all very well
    > managed thru the iTunes application.
    >
    > Would there be any improvement in changing over to FLAC? I look forward
    > to your comments.


    You win some, and lose some. This is almost certainly not an
    exhaustive list....

    On the losing side, you would miss out on

    * the ability to manage the collection through iTunes.

    On balance:

    * Compression accuracy - both are lossless, so they should
    both produce identical results from an audio perspective.
    * Compressed file size is close enough between the two to
    be irrelevant.
    * Both support tagging fields, which is an improvement over
    mainstream .wav.

    On the plus side with an SB1(G), you gain:

    * Open Source codec, with implementations on various
    platforms and a means of decoding and re-coding your
    music will probably be around longer than for Apple
    Lossless.

    In addition with an SB2:

    * Less Slimserver load - no need to decode Apple lossless
    and recode to Flac for your SB2.
    * Ability to fast forward/reverse in a track. (Native Flac
    streaming to the SB2 should allow this - although I
    haven't actually tried it. Transcoded Flac won't support
    FFWD/FREV.)

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    ingenuity of complete fools." (Douglas Adams)



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    There should be zero audible difference between the two lossless formats.
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    Last edited by JJZolx; 2011-01-22 at 16:27.

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    The limited support for FLAC and the restrictive nature of iTunes seem to be the main issues. Quality should be equal. I wish I could get a DVD-r media FLAC player for my truck, but I sure won't limit my options for sources, players, formats, and copying by using Itunes. I don't care if it is the sleekest interface and you can plug your ipod into a burton jacket or BMW dashboard.

    Quote Originally Posted by audiomex
    Hello audiophiles,

    I have been using Apple Lossless with my Squeezebox. The Squeezebox is connected digitally to either a TACT system or an Audio Note DAC. The sound has been very good.

    One of the reasons I like Apple Lossless is that it is all very well managed thru the iTunes application.

    Would there be any improvement in changing over to FLAC? I look forward to your comments.

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