sb2 slimserver version

[Kirk Ferguson]

Hello. I'm wondering whether the new squeezboxes will work with older versions
of Slimserver, say 5.4.0 or 5.4.1. I'm planning to order one if so.

I've had terrible luck so far with version 6, and wouldn't want to be locked
into using it until I can get it running.

After trying various nightlies recently, I've finally gotten the new beta to
scan my library, but once the scan completes (3 hours) the server crashes
(without log entries) as soon as I try to browse using the web interface. To
date I've never actually gotten version 6 to play a single note.

Fortunately, 5.4.x runs fine on the same system (dual P3, SCSI, 1GB, RedHat EL),
although 5.4.1 produces skips and occasionally cuts off songs early.

Seems that for my environment Slimserver is regressing over time, so I hope I
can use the more stable version with the new hardware.

Kirk

[kdf]

Quoting Kirk Ferguson <kferguson (AT) students (DOT) cncc.edu>:

> Hello. I'm wondering whether the new squeezboxes will work with older
> versions
> of Slimserver, say 5.4.0 or 5.4.1. I'm planning to order one if so.

6.0 will be required. The squeezebox 2 is totally new hardware, so it needs
special new code to talk to it.

> I've had terrible luck so far with version 6, and wouldn't want to be locked
> into using it until I can get it running.
>
> After trying various nightlies recently, I've finally gotten the new beta to
> scan my library, but once the scan completes (3 hours) the server crashes
> (without log entries) as soon as I try to browse using the web interface. To
> date I've never actually gotten version 6 to play a single note.

3 hours seems long. How many songs?

> Fortunately, 5.4.x runs fine on the same system (dual P3, SCSI, 1GB, RedHat
> EL),

try running /usr/local/slimserver.pl --d_http --d_info --d_source

you'll see the web activity, song infomation handling and playback processing in
the terminal. When/if the crash occurs, you can report the tail end of that
log.

-kdf

[Kirk Ferguson]

Quoting kdf <slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com>:

> Quoting Kirk Ferguson <kferguson (AT) students (DOT) cncc.edu>:
>
> > Hello. I'm wondering whether the new squeezboxes will work with older
> > versions
> > of Slimserver, say 5.4.0 or 5.4.1. I'm planning to order one if so.
>
> 6.0 will be required. The squeezebox 2 is totally new hardware, so it needs
> special new code to talk to it.
>

Bummer...

> > I've had terrible luck so far with version 6, and wouldn't want to be
> locked
> > into using it until I can get it running.
> >
> > After trying various nightlies recently, I've finally gotten the new beta
> to
> > scan my library, but once the scan completes (3 hours) the server crashes
> > (without log entries) as soon as I try to browse using the web interface.
> To
> > date I've never actually gotten version 6 to play a single note.
>
> 3 hours seems long. How many songs?

Around 25,000.
>
> > Fortunately, 5.4.x runs fine on the same system (dual P3, SCSI, 1GB,
> RedHat
> > EL),
>
> try running /usr/local/slimserver.pl --d_http --d_info --d_source
>
> you'll see the web activity, song infomation handling and playback processing
> in
> the terminal. When/if the crash occurs, you can report the tail end of that
> log.
>
I'll try that once I install version 6 again. Takes over three hours each time
I install, scan and try it out. Right now I think I'd just like to listen to
music for a while now that I've backed up to 5.4 again.

Thanks for the help. I'll post the output once I get it.

> -kdf
>

[kdf]

Quoting Kirk Ferguson <kferguson (AT) students (DOT) cncc.edu>:

> > 3 hours seems long. How many songs?
>
> Around 25,000.
> >

it would be very useful to have a snippet of the d_info log from during the
scan. I have about 10,000 in my collection and it takes a mere 15-18 minutes
from a blank slate. 35-40 minutes if I have itunes and musicmagic enabled at
the same time.

When you do get a chance to try 6.0 again, be sure to grab the latest nightly
build; improvements are coming in daily. Also, if you do complete a scan, keep
the slimserversql.db file around. You can save yourself a rescan if you do.
Plus, Dan may want to have a look at it if you are still having problems.

cheers,
kdf

[JJ]

----- Original Message -----
From: "kdf" <slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:13 PM
Subject: [slim] sb2 slimserver version


> Quoting Kirk Ferguson <kferguson (AT) students (DOT) cncc.edu>:
>
>> Hello. I'm wondering whether the new squeezboxes will work with older
>> versions
>> of Slimserver, say 5.4.0 or 5.4.1. I'm planning to order one if so.
>
>6.0 will be required. The squeezebox 2 is totally new hardware, so it
>needs
>special new code to talk to it.


Slim Devices is going to be shipping a new product in less than three
weeks and the software for it is still be in beta? Of course we can all
expect 6.0 to be "released" by then, but given all the problems I'm
reading about there seems very little chance they'll be ironed out in 20
days.

This should be interesting.

[Roy Owen]

From what I've seen so far I expect that SD will be able to meet the
deadline with functional
server software. I've gotten very good responses to my problems and
remember this is a b1 not a b0 release. The folks at SD are dedicated
and take pride in their work, so don't sell them short. Also the user
base is more "tech savvy" than the norm (read other geeks/developers)
so the feedback they're getting is *VERY* good, also loyal.

Just my $0.02

Roy

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:04:24 -0700, JJ <jj (AT) zolx (DOT) com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kdf" <slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:13 PM
> Subject: [slim] sb2 slimserver version
>
> > Quoting Kirk Ferguson <kferguson (AT) students (DOT) cncc.edu>:
> >
> >> Hello. I'm wondering whether the new squeezboxes will work with older
> >> versions
> >> of Slimserver, say 5.4.0 or 5.4.1. I'm planning to order one if so.
> >
> >6.0 will be required. The squeezebox 2 is totally new hardware, so it
> >needs
> >special new code to talk to it.
>
> Slim Devices is going to be shipping a new product in less than three
> weeks and the software for it is still be in beta? Of course we can all
> expect 6.0 to be "released" by then, but given all the problems I'm
> reading about there seems very little chance they'll be ironed out in 20
> days.
>
> This should be interesting.
>
>
>

[Steve Bernard, Jr]

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:32:04 -0800, kdf wrote:
> Quoting Kirk Ferguson <kferguson (AT) students (DOT) cncc.edu>:
>
> > > 3 hours seems long. How many songs?
> >
> > Around 25,000.
> > >
>
> it would be very useful to have a snippet of the d_info log from during the
> scan. I have about 10,000 in my collection and it takes a mere 15-18 minutes
> from a blank slate. 35-40 minutes if I have itunes and musicmagic enabled at
> the same time.

FWIW, my library of 10,400 or so files takes somewhere around four
hours to scan from a blank slate on 6.0, using the latest version.

My library is almost completely Ogg Vorbis files, but I don't know if
that makes a difference. I'll check that debug log as well next time
I rescan.

-Steve

[Dan Sully]

* Steve Bernard, Jr shaped the electrons to say...

>FWIW, my library of 10,400 or so files takes somewhere around four
>hours to scan from a blank slate on 6.0, using the latest version.
>
>My library is almost completely Ogg Vorbis files, but I don't know if
>that makes a difference. I'll check that debug log as well next time I rescan.

Steve - what OS are you using? If you can compile Ogg::Vorbis::Header from
CPAN - which a compiled C version, instead of the pure perl version which we
ship with SlimServer. That should be much faster for you.

-D
--
This knob controls the thing that changes when you turn it. - noah

[Gregory Hamilton]

Steve,

I was suprised to see your benchmark. I would like to provide one for
comparison:

Specs:
2GHZ Laptop
Windows XP SP1
17259 MP3's on a USB 1.1 harddrive.
Moodlogic enabled

Total time for new database build was 50 minutes.



On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:21:47 -0800, Dan Sully <dan (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote:
> * Steve Bernard, Jr shaped the electrons to say...
>
> >FWIW, my library of 10,400 or so files takes somewhere around four
> >hours to scan from a blank slate on 6.0, using the latest version.
> >
> >My library is almost completely Ogg Vorbis files, but I don't know if
> >that makes a difference. I'll check that debug log as well next time I rescan.
>
> Steve - what OS are you using? If you can compile Ogg::Vorbis::Header from
> CPAN - which a compiled C version, instead of the pure perl version which we
> ship with SlimServer. That should be much faster for you.
>
> -D
> --
> This knob controls the thing that changes when you turn it. - noah
>

[Mike Kozlowski]

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, JJ wrote:

> Slim Devices is going to be shipping a new product in less than three weeks
> and the software for it is still be in beta?

That's pretty much how it worked for the Squeezebox G, too. Which is why
I held off ordering the display upgrade for most of a month after it was
released, and why I'll hold off on a Squeezebox 2 upgrade for a while
after its release. Let others be gamma testers, I say.

--
Mike Kozlowski
http://www.klio.org/mlk/