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    Dave Owen
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    > Also, the problem is nonexistent on the analog outs and
    > even, I believe, absent from the coax digital output so it's not as
    > though there aren't other usable options.


    That brings up a question: is there a benefit to using the optical
    output versus the coax, or vice versa, in general on digital output
    products? Obviously there's a benefit to using the coax on the
    Squeezebox here, to avoid that bug, but I'm speaking generally.

    I always assumed not, since either is sending ones and zeros, but
    perhaps I'm wrong. The only thing I can think of is that some receivers
    might support one digital input type and not the other. Every
    digital-input receiver I've ever seen has provisions for both, but
    that's hardly definitive.

  2. #2
    Mike Hartley
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    Dave,
    Here is a link to a discussion on this question:
    http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...ead.php?t=7736

    In addition to the issues discussed in that thread (primarily fragility of
    the optical cable and connectors/EM interference on coax), I have heard the
    opinion expressed that using optical connectors can increase jitter/latency.
    But I have no objective info on that one.

    Mike
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    From: "Dave Owen" <dowen (AT) sapient (DOT) com>
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    Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:33 PM
    Subject: [slim] audiophile cred


    > Also, the problem is nonexistent on the analog outs and
    > even, I believe, absent from the coax digital output so it's not as
    > though there aren't other usable options.


    That brings up a question: is there a benefit to using the optical
    output versus the coax, or vice versa, in general on digital output
    products? Obviously there's a benefit to using the coax on the
    Squeezebox here, to avoid that bug, but I'm speaking generally.

    I always assumed not, since either is sending ones and zeros, but
    perhaps I'm wrong. The only thing I can think of is that some receivers
    might support one digital input type and not the other. Every
    digital-input receiver I've ever seen has provisions for both, but
    that's hardly definitive.

  3. #3
    Aaron Zinck
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    audiophile cred

    Since I'm the one who made the claim that the problem is absent from the
    coax digital outputs I just wanted to jump in here and mention that I've
    gone looking for the old message in this forum that I thought mentioned this
    and have been unable to find it. It would appear that I've perhaps made
    this up. Sorry for any confusion, guys! Still, though, it does not affect
    the analog outs, for what that's worth.

    With respect to which type of digital connection is superior: I've heard
    that optical connections can cause increased jitter. That said, I can't
    hear a difference between the two no matter how hard I try. While bits are
    bits, there is some merit to the idea that these are bits that must be
    delivered in an extremely time-sensitive fashion, so I suppose there's room
    for the engineers to argue about this one. By my ears, either connection
    works pretty darn well.

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