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  1. #21
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    Most cars have usb. I carry my music on some usb sticks for car use. I Bluetooth the phone as a phone only but I do have a lot of Flacs on my phone.
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    I've found most ICE systems have awful unresponsive UIs when it comes to browsing large numbers of files on USB sticks, tbh. And there's no search, obviously. And their format support is awful. I have everything ripped to flac for home use and a mirrored archive of ogg vorbis files for use outside the home. Despite ogg being a FREE codec most in car players won't actually play them. Even if you get the right format there are sometimes annoying revision or bitrate limits.

    Why Ogg not mp3? Well apart from the better sound quality per bit the main reason is Replaygain support.


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    Fewer distractions when driving is a good thing, so I do my organizing for drive-along-music ahead of time. I prefer to use USB drives but have an ample selection on my always-with-me mobile for bluetooth or cable access via USB port.

    I always have a flash drive with newer music for checking out, but several others with playlists of one sort or another that get modified/supplemented over time - Alternate Takes (side-by-side versions of songs by different artists) or Male/Female duets, for instance.

    I maintain two libraries, one with files as I received or made them, mainly flac, and another at 320 mp3 for mobile purposes. Since neither I nor most folks can hear the difference between a 320 mp3 and a flac on great home equipment, I am confident I won't be able to hear it in the all-noise environment of the car.

    As for loudness balancing, I've thought of that -- but doesn't most file conversion software, e.g. dbPoweramp, allow writing of MP3s in a conversion process that reflect the Replay Gain tag on the flac?

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    Yes you can create normalised mp3s, but the process is lossy in a way that's much worse than the lossy compression inherent in the medium.

    Ogg Vorbis gain leaves the raw data alone and requires all decoders to be able to apply the decibel correction from the headers. Similar to flac.


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    Quote Originally Posted by drmatt View Post
    Yes you can create normalised mp3s, but the process is lossy in a way that's much worse than the lossy compression inherent in the medium.

    Ogg Vorbis gain leaves the raw data alone and requires all decoders to be able to apply the decibel correction from the headers. Similar to flac.


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    I was under the impression that replay gain is applied via a tag in MP3 files and the original MP3 data is not altered, at least if FOOBAR200, MediaMonkey or Winamp are used to create replay gain info for MP3 files. How would this be different from Ogg Vorbis?
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    Depends on the player. If the new player honour the gain tag then great, but it was not a core feature.

    Annoyingly android core media playback services do not honour replaygain tags either, so I do wind up also permanently normalising my files used for portable playback. Like you say, no issue for in car playback.


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