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    Choose NAS

    One of my NAS Duo died just now and I want to buy a new NAS.
    What kind of choices do I have for NAS running Logitech Media Server?
    Synology DiskStation DS216j?
    Western Digital My Cloud?
    Other suggestions?

    I do not want the most expensive soloutions

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    I would not run LMS on a NAS - instead I would buy a NAS just to store files, and run LMS on a Raspberry Pi 3 with piCorePlayer, pointing it at the music files on the NAS. I did this some years ago after I got fed up with hassles around updating LMS on my QNAP NAS.

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    Office: LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy Bob View Post
    I would not run LMS on a NAS - instead I would buy a NAS just to store files, and run LMS on a Raspberry Pi 3 with piCorePlayer, pointing it at the music files on the NAS. I did this some years ago after I got fed up with hassles around updating LMS on my QNAP NAS.

    Robert
    +1
    Study/Server - LMS 7.9.1 - Raspberry Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22/jivelite, 25K library on WDMyCloud, cache and playlists on a USB stick (formatted ntfs).
    Lounge - RPi 2/Max2Play > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5
    Dining Room - Boom
    Garage - Raspberry Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22 > Edifier R980T
    In car - LMS 7.9.1 > RPi3/Max2Play/Access Point plugin > HiFiBerry DAC+ > car's hifi (files on a 2TB portable USB drive)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy Bob View Post
    I would not run LMS on a NAS - instead I would buy a NAS just to store files, and run LMS on a Raspberry Pi 3 with piCorePlayer, pointing it at the music files on the NAS. I did this some years ago after I got fed up with hassles around updating LMS on my QNAP NAS.

    Robert
    Hm... Will be a complete new setup for me then. Sounds a bit hard to set up. Server on my Netgears have worked as a dream earlier

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    The Pi (piCorePlayer) plus NAS Route is by far the most sensible current option.
    I believe that our leader - mherger - has adopted this approach. If it’s ok for him etc
    Pi3 pCp/LMS storage QNAP TS419p (NFS)
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    Office - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
    Dining Room -> SB Boom
    Kitchen -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
    Bedroom (Bedside) - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
    Bedroom (TV) - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s
    Everything controlled by iPeng

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    Choose NAS

    Genuinely curious about this thread -- why use a NAS at all? What's the
    advantage over a USB3 Tb drive plugged into my Max2Play/Pi system?

    Guy

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    On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 2:54 PM, d6jg <
    d6jg.891sfz (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:

    >
    > +2
    > The Pi (piCorePlayer) plus NAS Route is by far the most sensible current
    > option.
    > I believe that our leader - mherger - has adopted this approach. If it’s
    > ok for him etc
    >
    >
    >
    > PI3 PCP/LMS STORAGE QNAP TS419P (NFS)
    > *Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s
    > *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3
    > -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
    > *Dining Room* -> SB Boom
    > *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
    > *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
    > *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s
    > Everything controlled by iPeng
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051
    > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108355
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    A NAS is built as a shared storage device with appropriate hardware. A usb disk is highly likely to fail in comparison.
    A 2 disk NAS in Raid 1 will give you some redundancy - not to be confused with backup.
    Pi3 pCp/LMS storage QNAP TS419p (NFS)
    Living Room - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s
    Office - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
    Dining Room -> SB Boom
    Kitchen -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
    Bedroom (Bedside) - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
    Bedroom (TV) - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s
    Everything controlled by iPeng

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    Choose NAS

    In home network bandwith (ethernet or wifi) is sufficient to use such a
    thing for audio streaming? Interesting.

    Thanks -- this is interesting.

    Regards

    Guy Stalnaker
    jimmyg521 (AT) gmail (DOT) com

    On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 3:04 PM, d6jg <
    d6jg.891szz (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:

    >
    > A NAS is built as a shared storage device with appropriate hardware. A
    > usb disk is highly likely to fail in comparison.
    > A 2 disk NAS in Raid 1 will give you some redundancy - not to be
    > confused with backup.
    >
    >
    >
    > PI3 PCP/LMS STORAGE QNAP TS419P (NFS)
    > *Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s
    > *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3
    > -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
    > *Dining Room* -> SB Boom
    > *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
    > *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
    > *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s
    > Everything controlled by iPeng
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051
    > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108355
    >
    >

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    Choose NAS

    Quote Originally Posted by KjellTore View Post
    One of my NAS Duo died just now and I want to buy a new NAS.
    What kind of choices do I have for NAS running Logitech Media Server?
    Synology DiskStation DS216j?
    Western Digital My Cloud?
    Other suggestions?

    I do not want the most expensive soloutions
    It is not an easy decision. For some technical reason which I don’t fully understand, yet, LMS seems to be quite picky of the hardware to run on. This is totally different to other Media Servers, like MinimServer, DSAudio or BubbleUPnP.

    So your decision should be to which extent you will be relying on LMS. Plus, the more albums, the more media formats, the more complex setup you have, the more you should look to an individual solution using a separate server / player setup like on a Pi.

    For standard users without such demands and programming know how, I would still recommend a good NAS (of course Synology) but then prefer one with an Intel processor rather than ARM.
    Last edited by Ge Ba; 2017-12-05 at 15:35.
    Server: LMS 7.9.1-166 Synology @ Sept 04 2017 on DS216Play. SOX mansr ARMv7 & C-3PO. Players: SB Radio, Freecom MusicPal. Multiroom HiFi: Denon AVR-X4000, AVM M30, Nubert NuLine/NuVero 5.1+2

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    Experience with Snynology

    I was recently in a similar situation. Netgear DUO NAS died. I bought a Synology DS218+ and have been very happy so far. Easy installation of LMS, the user interface is far superior to Netgear. I'm not a techie, so the Raspberry Pi solution recommended by others would have been beyond me.

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