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    Override 500

    Hi all, I am loving Squeezebox Touch with Tidal and even more now that I figured out how to shuffle play, BUT SBT seems to be limited to 500. Is there a way to override 500?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apesbrain View Post

    My SBT seems to show 1-500 most times, sometimes not and when it does not, I do an unplug and plug back in and then it will show 1-500, I know 500 is plenty but just looking for a way to play more of variety of my "favored" tunes. I hate being limited........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Budyog View Post
    Hi all, I am loving Squeezebox Touch with Tidal and even more now that I figured out how to shuffle play, BUT SBT seems to be limited to 500. Is there a way to override 500?
    You mean you can shuffle tracks among you favourites with artists or albums? Please show me how...
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    Just play them all and turn shuffle mode on.
    WRT the 500 track limit: there’s a setting for that in the LMS advanced settings, I believe under „performance“
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    Quote Originally Posted by pippin View Post
    Just play them all and turn shuffle mode on.
    WRT the 500 track limit: there’s a setting for that in the LMS advanced settings, I believe under „performance“
    There isn't any > button in Artists or Albums, just a list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    There isn't any > button in Artists or Albums, just a list.
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    If you are referring to the "Shuffle" button, it is on the squeezebox device display for Example on a Touch the Shuffle Button is just to the left of the left most Volume Bar Speaker Icon. One can also "Shuffle" a playlist from LMS by clicking the same Shuffle Icon in the Main Right Pane of LMS (it is in the exact same location between the Loop Playlist Icon and left most Volume Bar Speaker Icon).

    One can change the Total Number of allowed Tracks in a Playlist in LMS under Settings> Advance Tab > Performance (which is under the drop down tab) > Maximum Playlist Length. The setting is variable but has two fixed meaning, if one enters "0" then there is no restriction on Playlist Length (this can really slow down a server if one is making 5000 track playlists) and the other fixed setting is 10 which is the Minimum Length Playlist Limit IE numbers 1 - 9 are illegal inputs. Any other numbers chosen will be the maximum allowed Tracks in a Playlist. Example: by putting 250 in the box, no playlist can exceed 250, so when the two hundred and fifty first song is added, song one is deleted by pushing it off the list. The exception to this rule is when one is using Tidal, then the list maximum is 500.

    Lastly I know this will not work for the OP because he is using Tidal, but when using one's actual Library to play ALL Favorites randomly I do not use a playlist or Shuffle. I copied my 5000 favorite songs to a separate specific Library. When I want to listen to ALL my favorites randomly, I point LMS at my Favorites Library, then I pick Random Mix from the Main Left Panel. Then the number of Favorites in a huge Playlist can't slow down the Server due to some huge Playlist because there is NO Playlist. Once the Touch gets 21 songs loaded it will display the last 10 songs played, the current song playing as number 11 plus the next 10 randomly picked songs to be played when scrolling through the list on the display. Once it plays song 11, and song 22 would be add, song one is pushed off and 11 will now be the current song playing since the list will now stay at 21 songs. NOTE: For those that have huge libraries and want to do this, I recommend building a NUC or Raspberry Pi server so you have two Servers (your huge library Sever and your small Favorites Server so you don't have to do rescans). Since I have a Separate Vortexbox Sever just for Music and a second Vortexbox Server for Movies plus my 5000 Favorites, I just use the IP Address of my Movies Server when opening LMS in a web browser so I no longer have to do any Library pointing or timely rescans of a huge Library anymore.
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    Yes some services can be limited to 500 anyway , even if up the playlist limit in your LMS server . I use 4000 and currently see no performance issues .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnyb View Post
    Yes some services can be limited to 500 anyway , even if up the playlist limit in your LMS server . I use 4000 and currently see no performance issues .
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    Agreed. I just checked mine and it is set to 3000 and I also have no issues. Back in the early days when I was running LMS on an NAS if I made a playlist larger then 1000 (I had started a Playlist of my favorite 3 songs from every artist on my server to play every Thursday in a 3 for Thursday style), I started seeing issues. With todays high speed multi-processors and GBs of RAM, it isn't the issue it once was. But if one is trying to use the smallest least powerful micro server one can get away with, then Playlist Track Size could become an issue. There are several hundred variables here, so when one starts seeing performance issues, one of the first places to look is Track List size just to rule it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    You mean you can shuffle tracks among you favourites with artists or albums? Please show me how...

    In Tidal you have to "Favorite" or "star" each track you want in "tracks", I have just been doing them all, I have like 7000. Then when I am on SBT, go to apps, favorites, tracks, hit shuffle on SBT and play! But don't do all your "A"s, then "B"s and then "C"s and so on. It seems to then play lot of As or Bs.....I mix them up. I'll do an album from my Bs then and album from my Ms and so on.

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