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    Router help..

    Hi folks hope all is well.

    Renewing mt ISP/Broadband provider shortly.Been with Sky..now thinking of Talk Talk.The only thing putting me off (apart from poor Cust. Service from them-well thats with them all really!) ..is there routers are poor.(again most ISP ROUTERS ARE PRETTY POOR)...anyway...any recommendations welcome . Looking at the web: AVM Fritz!box seem good and more well known names Tplink ; netgear etc...

    I use Fibre..but to be honest Iam the only user in the House (Lucky ,me) ..So I could just go for Standard. Snail pace...but want a good signal around my pad esp. upstairs where my SBT SITS via ethernet.

    All advice warmly welcome (BTW: Iam U.K. based)

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    Quote Originally Posted by daleyb View Post
    Hi folks hope all is well.

    Renewing mt ISP/Broadband provider shortly.Been with Sky..now thinking of Talk Talk.The only thing putting me off (apart from poor Cust. Service from them-well thats with them all really!) ..is there routers are poor.(again most ISP ROUTERS ARE PRETTY POOR)...anyway...any recommendations welcome . Looking at the web: AVM Fritz!box seem good and more well known names Tplink ; netgear etc...

    I use Fibre..but to be honest Iam the only user in the House (Lucky ,me) ..So I could just go for Standard. Snail pace...but want a good signal around my pad esp. upstairs where my SBT SITS via ethernet.

    All advice warmly welcome (BTW: Iam U.K. based)
    To be clear, Are you asking for advice on ISP's or Routers ?
    Most of the big ISP's do not support or do not allow 3rd party routers.
    Some can be difficult or impossible to setup due to some of the authentification systems they use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff07971 View Post
    To be clear, Are you asking for advice on ISP's or Routers ?
    Most of the big ISP's do not support or do not allow 3rd party routers.
    Some can be difficult or impossible to setup due to some of the authentification systems they use.
    This is so.


    If you use a different router from the default one supplied by the ISP and experience problems of any sort, you will have to reconnect the supplied router, check if the fault still exists and then make your complaint.

    Some ISP might supply only a modem and allow your own router, you will have to ask.

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    My approach is to use the ISP router only for the connection to the ISP and then run one cable from that router to one of mine.
    One benefit is that I can switch ISP with almost no fuss.
    I have ISP router and mine on different subnets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Webster View Post
    My approach is to use the ISP router only for the connection to the ISP and then run one cable from that router to one of mine.
    One benefit is that I can switch ISP with almost no fuss.
    I have ISP router and mine on different subnets.
    good idea. So is that just an Ethernet cable joining together..

    Just to make it clear my concerns are not with Any ISPs...(There all a rip off and there seems no loyalty as an existing customer gets little reward..it seems change to another ISP every year. You wouldn't get married and have an affair every year, although some folk may!.I appreciate theres a need for competition ..but at the end of the day it all comes down the same wires(unless you with Virgin/cable)...

    as for "you get what you pay for" BT Charge quite a lot..yet when the new BT SMART HUB-6 came out, I can remember many folk on here getting to sync with there SBT etc...

    Anyway toys out of Cot done. Just wanted to know how easy it was (or is not) to use another router....maybe its just best to stick with what they give you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daleyb View Post
    good idea. So is that just an Ethernet cable joining together..

    Just to make it clear my concerns are not with Any ISPs...(There all a rip off and there seems no loyalty as an existing customer gets little reward..it seems change to another ISP every year. You wouldn't get married and have an affair every year, although some folk may!.I appreciate theres a need for competition ..but at the end of the day it all comes down the same wires(unless you with Virgin/cable)...

    as for "you get what you pay for" BT Charge quite a lot..yet when the new BT SMART HUB-6 came out, I can remember many folk on here getting to sync with there SBT etc...

    Anyway toys out of Cot done. Just wanted to know how easy it was (or is not) to use another router....maybe its just best to stick with what they give you.
    Thats just not true there are good ISP's (Zen for example ) They charge slightly more, though looking at the adverts not too much.
    and there are bad ISP's BT, Sky and TalkTalk.

    Zen do not restrict your modem/router choice and supply a much better than average Fritz!Box 7490 (I think) added to this they will give you fixed IP addreses (For usefull for VPN's and hosting servers)
    Talk talk do not seem to have a problem with different M/R's although you'd better be able to diagnose and correct problems on it. Also with the mainstream ISP's you better pray you don't need to talk to support !

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    [QUOTE=Jeff07971;893867]Thats just not true there are good ISP's (Zen for example ) They charge slightly more, though looking at the adverts not too much.
    and there are bad ISP's BT, Sky and TalkTalk.

    Great Info..thats what I love about this Forum you learn So Much.Never heard of Zen Will look into them. Your spot on with Support there all poor.To be honest though I got a great deal with Sky, 12 Months With Q box, Fibre (25gb cap) and anytime free calls for ú11.00 ! a month all in. The TVs already cancelled.(so I dont pay over ú60 ).

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    [QUOTE=daleyb;893869]
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff07971 View Post
    Thats just not true there are good ISP's (Zen for example ) They charge slightly more, though looking at the adverts not too much.
    and there are bad ISP's BT, Sky and TalkTalk.

    Great Info..thats what I love about this Forum you learn So Much.Never heard of Zen Will look into them. Your spot on with Support there all poor.To be honest though I got a great deal with Sky, 12 Months With Q box, Fibre (25gb cap) and anytime free calls for ú11.00 ! a month all in. The TVs already cancelled.(so I dont pay over ú60 ).
    25GB Cap !!!! Thats 2 days use for me and less than 24 hours for one of my friends !!
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    If you don't plan to use the ISP's router make sure they will give you the username and password to access their WAN connection. I have come across one that does not give it out for security reasons which would force you to use their rubbishy one.

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    I havent used ISP suplied routers for the last decade .

    Get your username and passwords and other relevant stuff .

    My ISP does not enforce this stuff even if they have something if you ask , they are actually quite keen on the oposite so they dont sell if dont really want one , they are not a hardware vendor and why should they be ?
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