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    BBC iPlayer Radio pliugin under threat ?

    I am a longstanding user of the excellent BBC iPlayer plugin, created by Triode and currently nobly maintained by BPA. Having invested in a number of Raspberry Pi3 and Audio DAC's, along with PiCorePlayer it is my sole method of accessing BBC radio content at home.

    Recently the excellent BBC iPlayer Extra provided by BPA has ceased to work, apparently because of BBC enhancements (not!).

    Readers will no doubt already be aware that the BBC has announced that shortly there will be a requirement to register and login to use their TV iPlayer application. My concern is that this requirement will also extend to the BBC digital radio streams.

    Reading around I found this BBC blog post here written by Andrew Scott now entitled as "Launch Director myBBC" (who I recall was involved in trying to resolve the fall out a few years ago from the fiasco surrounding the poorly coordinated retirement by the BBC of certain radio streams which left a large number of people with useless hardware).

    Worryingly on Mr Scott's blog post (in between all the polished corporate speak) he states:

    "Last September, we outlined our plans to make the BBC more personal and relevant to you. We’re doing this by making some changes that mean you will need to sign in with a BBC account to access BBC iPlayer, BBC iPlayer Radio and some other services."

    The majority of comments posted in reply to his blog post focus on the TV iPlayer sign in requirement, although there is currently a single one posted by piers (12/5/2017 @13:56) asking:

    "I can't see any indication whether sign-in will affectability to listen to live radio via internet radio tuner (portable, like Roberts/Pure, or hi-fi like Cambridge Audio/Panasonic streaming devices).As well, up to now, these broadcasts have been openly available on mainland Europe (except some 5Live sporting events)."

    There is currently no response from the BBC.

    I have previously hi-lighted my concerns about the future direction of the BBC in this thread here

    I believe that some readers of this forum may have "contacts" within the BBC and I wonder if they are aware of any plans to obstruct the current DASH streams?

    I would not want to be faced with the fiasco we had last time when users only became aware of the problem once the streams were withdrawn (agitate now!)

    Cheers

    Alan
    Last edited by farrina; 2017-05-16 at 04:33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrina View Post
    "Last September, we outlined our plans to make the BBC more personal and relevant to you. We’re doing this by making some changes that mean you will need to sign in with a BBC account to access BBC iPlayer, BBC iPlayer Radio and some other services."
    This issues has already been discussed in two other threads.

    basically - if plugins stop working then there is problem. Otherwise any other post is speculation and just clogs a thread.

    editr:

    The plugin already handles the https issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    This issues has already been discussed in two other threads.

    basically - if plugins stop working then there is problem. Otherwise any other post is speculation and just clogs a thread.

    editr:

    The plugin already handles the https issue.
    Oh - had not spotted those threads, were they recent ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrina View Post
    Oh - had not spotted those threads, were they recent ?
    Yes - last few days since login request started oin Android app at the weekend.

    One specific thread
    http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...the-Squeezebox
    and second interspersed in the main dash thread.
    http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...l=1#post883537

    edit:

    https issue was handled by a bug fix a few months ago in reaction to when BBC introduced https URLs.
    BBC normally do not talk to individuals (although they did one post on the DASH thread as plugin was causing them problems) and so fixes only happen after a change is made or a facility is made available (e.g. DASH Flac test stream up to May - DASH Flac will be used again for Proms as another test).
    Last edited by bpa; 2017-05-16 at 05:57.

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    Thanks Bryan,

    Let's hope your conclusions are correct and that we can carry on undisturbed.

    The icing on the cake would be if BBC iPlayer Extra could eventually be resurrected once the BBC have finished their meddling.

    As ever, thanks for all your extensive efforts.

    Best wishes

    Alan

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrina View Post
    The icing on the cake would be if BBC iPlayer Extra could eventually be resurrected once the BBC have finished their meddling.
    As a sop,when the BBC killed off the feeds Extra used, they kept a few feed still running until 2018 - latest and alphabetical. The old feeds provided program info per Radio station. The new "replacement" provides a single feed with program info for all programs TV & Radio (inlcuding all local and overseas). The output is paginated and each pages has info for hundreds of programs so it takes a long time to get a response for each page. So if want Radio 4 latest after filtering - you may get just 4 or no programs on first page and then say 2 on next page etc. It is practically unusable - which I think it BBC's intent.

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