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  • Harlock
    Junior Member
    • May 2017
    • 8
    #1

    Spotify incoming IP addresses for LMS?

    I have LMS v7.9.0 running on a Synology DS214+. Using the great Protocol Handler, I was able to get Spotify working on all my Squeezebox Booms.
    For security reasons, I block all incoming connections and accept only IP addresses in my network. However, if I set 'Block Incoming Connections' to 'Block',
    Spotify will stop working.

    What IP addresses do I need to add to 'Allowed IP Addresses' to grant Spotify access to LMS?


    Thanks.
    Harlock
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    • JeffHart
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 203
      #2
      Did a quick tracert to www.spotify.com and came back with 193.235.32.166, so you might try that. Only real way to know for sure is to see if your router will do a packet capture or at least show connections when you're using Spotify when allowing inbound connections.
      "You know, I'm all for progress. It's change I object to."
      Mark Twain

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        • mherger
          Babelfish's Best Boy
          • Apr 2005
          • 24632
          #3
          Spotify incoming IP addresses for LMS?

          > I have LMS v7.9.0 running on a Synology DS214+. Using the great Protocol
          > Handler, I was able to get Spotify working on all my Squeezebox Booms.
          > For security reasons, I block all incoming connections and accept only
          > IP addresses in my network. However, if I set 'Block Incoming
          > Connections' to 'Block', Spotify will stop working.

          "Incoming connections" imho are something different than responses to
          request coming from the inside. Or outgoing connections. In the SB world
          you should _never_ need to open ports for incoming connections.

          > What IP addresses do I need to add to 'Allowed IP Addresses' to grant
          > Spotify access to LMS?

          Again, we need some more precision here: what access are you talking
          about? Spotify as a larger unit never accesses your LMS. LMS would
          access their services. If you're talking about the Spotify Protocol
          Handler, than check the port settings in Advanced/Spotify Protocol
          Handler. That's the port LMS uses to access SPH. Or the players use to
          stream from.
          --

          Michael
          Michael

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          (LMS: Settings/Information)

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            • pippin
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 14809
              #4
              But the protocol handler (or helper) port needs to be open, at least from the same device.
              And you'd want port 3483 to be open for the server to be found and 9000 for the server to be controlled, but that's unrelated to Spotify, of course.
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                • Harlock
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2017
                  • 8
                  #5
                  I must be missing something here. I understand that blocking incoming connections to LMS should have no impact on Spotify. However, whenever I block incoming connections I get:

                  Plugins::SpotifyProtocolHandler::ProtocolHandler:: handleDirectError (179) stream failed - bad player: -1

                  and nothing plays. If I unblock incoming connections, everything works fine.

                  The helper app is running and the necessary ports are open in my ASUS router to the Synology.

                  This has me baffled, so any insight would be much appreciated.


                  Thanks.
                  Harlock

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                    • mherger
                      Babelfish's Best Boy
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 24632
                      #6
                      Spotify incoming IP addresses for LMS?

                      > I must be missing something here. I understand that blocking incoming
                      > connections to LMS should have no impact on Spotify. However, whenever I
                      > block incoming connections I get:

                      Where do you block incoming connections? And what's the exact, verbatim
                      name of the option?

                      --

                      Michael
                      Michael

                      "It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log and/or scanner.log file!"
                      (LMS: Settings/Information)

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                        • Harlock
                          Junior Member
                          • May 2017
                          • 8
                          #7
                          In LMS, under Advanced > Security.

                          Options:
                          Block Incoming Connections
                          Allowed IP Addresses

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                            • mherger
                              Babelfish's Best Boy
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 24632
                              #8
                              Spotify incoming IP addresses for LMS?

                              > In LMS, under Advanced > Security.

                              Oh, in LMS itself? Hmm... I'm surprised the helper would need to talk to
                              LMS. But if that's the case: enter your server's IP address, or
                              127.0.0.1. The helper is running on the same machine as LMS.

                              --

                              Michael
                              Michael

                              "It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log and/or scanner.log file!"
                              (LMS: Settings/Information)

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                                • jeremy
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Dec 2005
                                  • 173
                                  #9
                                  I had this issue a while back. After a bit of web searching I found a stack of IP addresses that Spotify uses, so many that I'm not convinced that the setting now provides any security. However, for what it's worth my Allowed IP Addresses now has the list below & Spotify works ok (now with Michael's new Spotty plugin)

                                  Jeremy

                                  192.168.1.*, 23.92.96.0, 194.71.232.0, 194.68.28.0, 194.68.176.0, 194.68.169.0, 194.68.165.0, 194.68.116.0, 194.14.177.0, 194.132.73.0, 194.132.72.0, 194.132.204.0, 194.132.196.0, 194.132.173.0, 194.132.172.0, 194.132.168.0, 194.132.162.0, 194.132.152.0, 194.103.36.0, 194.103.10.0, 193.235.51.0, 193.235.32.0, 193.235.206.0, 193.235.203.0, 193.234.240.0, 193.182.7.0, 193.182.3.0, 193.182.243.0, 193.181.4.0, 193.181.180.0, 192.165.160.0, 192.121.53.0, 192.121.132.0,78.31.8.0, 193.182.8.0,194.68.28.0,193.235.232.0,78.31.*.*,19 3.182.*.*, 194.68.*.*
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                                    • d6jg
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Feb 2011
                                      • 8946
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by jeremy
                                      I had this issue a while back. After a bit of web searching I found a stack of IP addresses that Spotify uses, so many that I'm not convinced that the setting now provides any security. However, for what it's worth my Allowed IP Addresses now has the list below & Spotify works ok (now with Michael's new Spotty plugin)

                                      Jeremy

                                      192.168.1.*, 23.92.96.0, 194.71.232.0, 194.68.28.0, 194.68.176.0, 194.68.169.0, 194.68.165.0, 194.68.116.0, 194.14.177.0, 194.132.73.0, 194.132.72.0, 194.132.204.0, 194.132.196.0, 194.132.173.0, 194.132.172.0, 194.132.168.0, 194.132.162.0, 194.132.152.0, 194.103.36.0, 194.103.10.0, 193.235.51.0, 193.235.32.0, 193.235.206.0, 193.235.203.0, 193.234.240.0, 193.182.7.0, 193.182.3.0, 193.182.243.0, 193.181.4.0, 193.181.180.0, 192.165.160.0, 192.121.53.0, 192.121.132.0,78.31.8.0, 193.182.8.0,194.68.28.0,193.235.232.0,78.31.*.*,19 3.182.*.*, 194.68.*.*
                                      I think you need to read up a bit on networking, NAT and TCP/IP generally.
                                      Surely the setting inside LMS is primarily intended for controlling internal network access i.e. to block a Kids PC for example.
                                      Unless you have ports forwarded on your router to your LMS machine all of the above IPs should be superfluous except 192.168.1.*
                                      Jim



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