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    How can I tell what format and bit rate Tidal is streaming at?

    Is it possible to tell when playing music from Tidal Hifi whether
    the stream is flac vs mp3? I've not been able to find this info
    anywhere, though I'm guessing it is hiding in plain view.

    2nd question: is there any reason a Raspberry pi board running
    Squeezelite (on Moode) would be unable to play Tidal flac files
    at native resolution?

    Thanks for any enlightenment one can provide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p-cubed View Post
    Is it possible to tell when playing music from Tidal Hifi whether
    the stream is flac vs mp3? I've not been able to find this info
    anywhere, though I'm guessing it is hiding in plain view.

    2nd question: is there any reason a Raspberry pi board running
    Squeezelite (on Moode) would be unable to play Tidal flac files
    at native resolution?

    Thanks for any enlightenment one can provide.
    You can not see the bit rate, but in web gui you see if it is MP3 or FLAC Name:  tidal-flac.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by p-cubed View Post
    Is it possible to tell when playing music from Tidal Hifi whether
    the stream is flac vs mp3? I've not been able to find this info
    anywhere, though I'm guessing it is hiding in plain view.

    2nd question: is there any reason a Raspberry pi board running
    Squeezelite (on Moode) would be unable to play Tidal flac files
    at native resolution?

    Thanks for any enlightenment one can provide.
    If you are using ickStream to stream Tidal ( http://wiki.ickstream.com/index.php/...eta_Squeezebox ) , you can set the the ickstream logs to debug and see what format is playing - ref: http://forum.ickstream.com/viewtopic...mp3+flac#p2594
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    Tidal with LMS Tidal Plugin

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    My neighbor is running LMS 7.9.0 and the LMS Tidal Plugin and on his web browser with the LMS Split screen shows the bit rate in the Right Pane right under ALBUM name IE the display shows:

    Song Title
    Artist
    Album
    Bit Rate and Format (MP3 or FLAC)

    If it is MP3 it shows the Bit rate/MP3, if it's FLAC it shows a few different things depending on what I don't know. I have seen PCM VRB, FLAC; 815bps, FLAC; 600bps, FLAC; etc.
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    Additional Information

    Quote Originally Posted by p-cubed View Post
    Is it possible to tell when playing music from Tidal Hifi whether
    the stream is flac vs mp3? I've not been able to find this info
    anywhere, though I'm guessing it is hiding in plain view.

    Thanks for any enlightenment one can provide.
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    There is also another way to see what Tidal is going to send you if you have your LMS Browser open. Pick the song(s) you wish to listen to or check, placing them in your Que so they show up in the right hand pane. Now move your cursor over the song you wish more information on and out to the far right of the highlighted song you will see the Play Icon, the Delete Icon (X), and the M Icon (M). Click on the M and all the known info on that song/track will now be displayed in the Left Pane. It will show the File Format (MP3, FLAC, etc) where its from (Tidal, Pandora, or drive in your collect), and what the Bit Rate is.

    Enjoy the Music!
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    The suggested logging can be of some interest .

    When I tried Tidal . I think about >80% off stuff was FLAC .
    So then you can nag them if your fav album is not yet aviable as flac.

    Yes the service provides an MP3 file if there is no flac file aviable.
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    One must also note what one signed up for, if one didn't sign-up for HiFi Subscription, then one isn't going to see FLAC, if one didn't sign up for Premium, ones isn't going to see 320Kbps. My neighbor was seeing only low bite rate MP3s and didn't know he had signed up for the lowest quality service!

    From Tidal Website:

    What Is The Difference Between Normal, High, And HiFI?

    HiFi - Lossless FLAC:
    16bit / 44.1 KHz 1411Kbps FLAC Files on average will consume about 10MB of data per minute of content.
    4 minute track ~ 40 MB of Data that is either used when streaming, or storage space required


    High - AAC 320 Kbps:
    AAC files found under the high setting on average will consume about 2.4 MB of data per minute of content.
    4 minute track ~ 9.6 MB of data that is either used when streaming, or storage space required


    Normal - AAC+ 96 Kbps:
    AAC+ tracks found in the normal setting on average will consume about 720 KB of data per minute of content
    4 minute track ~ 2.88 MB of data that is either used when streaming, or storage space required.
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