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    Tracks on 2 recentlly downloaded FLAC albums plays in alphabetical not track order

    I recently downloaded 2 96-24 albums in FLAC from 7digital. The Mavericks latest Brand New Day (which is pretty compressed but that is another story) and Rhiannon Giddens EP Factory Girl. For some odd reason the tracks on each album played in alphabetical order, not track order. No other albums in my collection exhibit this behavior.
    • Songs played in alphabetical order, not track order
    • Album is listed as "Brand New Day/ Brand New Day" for The Mavericks and "Factory Girl / Factory Girl" for Rhiannon Giddens (no quotes)
    • Similarly each song title is listed as song title / song title (eg. Riding Along / Riding Along)
    • Doesn't matter if I used the web browser of the SBT directly.
    • When I examined the tags, the album name and track names are not doubled like that


    Trouble Shooting:
    • Using dbpoweramp I edited Disc from 1/1 to 01
    • Change Track from 1/10, 2/10, 3/10, etc to 01, 02, 03 etc.
    • Changed the file name from "The Mavericks - 1. Riding Along.FLAC" "The Mavericks - 01 Riding Along.FLAC" (IOW I removed the period)


    None of those attempts corrected it. If I played the album by selecting Music Folder first, they would play properly as the files are named with the track number.

    Also, and I have seen this behavior before with FLACS, even though I set the tags 'Artist Sort' and 'Album Artist Sort' to "Giddens, Rhiannon", it is still sorted under "R". If I add new tags "ARTISTSORT" and "ALBUMARTISTSORT" (note the capital letters and no spacing) and tag with "Giddens, Rhiannon" it is sortted properly under "G".

    I have found a work around - I used the batch converter in dbpoweramp to convert the 96/24 FLACS to 96/24 FLACS in a new folder. (There shouldn't be any harm in that, should there?)
    As an afterthought, perhaps I should have did a complete rescan of the library first, maybe that might have cleared it up.

    Can anyone offer any clues? This is one of the frustrating things about this 'hobby'. Sometimes you just want to sit and listen to an album and these little gremlins sneak in and you wind up troubleshooting for an hour!
    Last edited by stereoptic; 2017-04-07 at 20:37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stereoptic View Post
    As an afterthought, perhaps I should have did a complete rescan of the library first, maybe that might have cleared it up.
    I've found that a "clear & rescan" is sometimes the only solution to a problem like this. With what you did to the track number you should have been OK. Also, some vendors also put ID3 tags in FLACs and they should be removed.

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    Thanks for that! How can I tell which are the ID3 tags? I've never had this problem before. Maybe it's a thing with 7digital. I should check my previous downloads from them

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    Quote Originally Posted by stereoptic View Post
    Thanks for that! How can I tell which are the ID3 tags?
    Some ideas here:
    https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,79525.0.html

    I'd probably lean on Mp3tag to do this. Load all files, add a TAG column (right-click on column headers), sort by TAG, select all with both Vorbis and ID3 tags, remove all tags, undo. Default rules should write back only the Vorbis comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apesbrain View Post
    Some ideas here:
    https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,79525.0.html

    I'd probably lean on Mp3tag to do this. Load all files, add a TAG column (right-click on column headers), sort by TAG, select all with both Vorbis and ID3 tags, remove all tags, undo. Default rules should write back only the Vorbis comments.
    Thanks for the advise. I'll give it a try!

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    This is a bit of a side question since the user purchased FLAC files that apparently have ID3 tags.

    Is this a potential flag that the files were originally MP3 files?

    Has anyone ever purchased FLAC files that ended up being converted from MP3's? I'm guessing one could tell fairly easily if buying high-resolution files, but I'm not sure on standard ones. I still buy CD's but wouldn't mind switching to buying FLACs if I can trust them. 7-digital makes this appealing since they have a large selection and decent prices, but I also wonder sometimes.

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    Hey

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