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    Quote Originally Posted by mpower9 View Post
    Good grief! I'm a little old lady. If I want to run this podcast off another gadget, I can run it off my phone or tablet plugged into my SB radio. I don't need to build another gadget.

    I fear what you are telling me is that the useful life of my squeezebox coming to an end and that it is not going to be supported as the technology evolves.
    That's a fair summary. There are two parts to you product, the squeezebox and the mysqueezebox service run by Logitech. Micheal, and employee of Logitech says that the solution to you problem requires a fix to both parts of the product, and thats not likely to happen.

    Logitech abandoned the Squeezebox product line some years ago, so this should not be a surprise. I'm grateful for all the help and support we get here in the circumstances.
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    Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Squeeze Ctrl app on Android.

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    How About Open Source?

    Quote Originally Posted by cathcam View Post
    That's a fair summary. There are two parts to you product, the squeezebox and the mysqueezebox service run by Logitech. Micheal, and employee of Logitech says that the solution to you problem requires a fix to both parts of the product, and thats not likely to happen.

    Logitech abandoned the Squeezebox product line some years ago, so this should not be a surprise. I'm grateful for all the help and support we get here in the circumstances.
    Any chance that the firmware will be released to the open source community so it can be maintained and updated? There are still a lot of interesting things that could be done with this platform so it would be a shame to see it die.

    Maybe Google Home is the simple replacement though.

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    Squeezebox Radio Podcast Problem

    > Any chance that the firmware will be released to the open source
    > community so it can be maintained and updated?


    Unlikely to happen. Parts of the firmware are licensed code, therefore
    can't be released. Plus ip3k firmware needs rather expensive commercial
    tools. And to find someone able to build the firmware is even more
    unlikely... I'm certainly no expert when it comes to firmware builds.
    But a few weeks back I spent several days trying, and failed miserably.

    > There are still a lot of
    > interesting things that could be done with this platform so it would be
    > a shame to see it die.


    Most things can be done server side. But you'll have to run LMS. Which
    should be the least of a problem if you even consider building firmware.

    And some things can be done by modifying the firmware. Triode somehow
    managed to install an alternative kernel on the device...
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    What is the current state of support for https podcast indexes and https podcast streams, in Logitech Media Server 7.9?

    I have downloaded and installed the 7.9 nightly release that was current as of yesterday (Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1499900819 @ Sat Jul 15 04:07:35 UTC 2017).

    I enabled the Podcasts (2.0) plugin. I have set the msqueezebox.com settings to not synchronize podcast listings with my local server.
    I am adding the podcasts in the [podcasts] tab of the settings window. I am interacting with the Podcasts entry under the My Apps menu in the LMS web interface home page.

    Some podcasts work fine.

    There are two that exhibit different problems:

    Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!
    http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast.php?id=344098539

    Selecting this podcast results in the log message:

    Code:
    [17-07-16 11:17:34.5696] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/npr-344098539/npr.mc.tritondigital.com/WAITWAIT_PODCAST/media/anon.npr-mp3/npr/waitwait/2017/07/20170715_waitwait_wwdtmpodcast170715.mp3?orgId=1&d=2964&p=344098539&story=537329216&t=podcast&e=537329216&ft=pod&f=344098539: Connect timed out: .
    The episodes are displayed with icons.

    Pressing play for an episode results in the log entry:

    Code:
    [17-07-16 11:19:15.5320] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/npr-344098539/npr.mc.tritondigital.com/WAITWAIT_PODCAST/media/anon.npr-mp3/npr/waitwait/2017/07/20170715_waitwait_wwdtmpodcast170715.mp3?orgId=1&d=2964&p=344098539&story=537329216&t=podcast&e=537329216&ft=pod&f=344098539: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:19:15.6806] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/npr-344098539/npr.mc.tritondigital.com/WAITWAIT_PODCAST/media/anon.npr-mp3/npr/waitwait/2017/07/20170715_waitwait_wwdtmpodcast170715.mp3?orgId=1&d=2964&p=344098539&story=537329216&t=podcast&e=537329216&ft=pod&f=344098539: Connect timed out: .


    Marketplace with Kai Ryssdal
    https://feeds.publicradio.org/public...ace-pm/rss/rss

    Selecting the podcast results in the following log entries, then the episode list is displayed with titles only, no icons:

    Code:
    [17-07-16 11:21:11.9014] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/07/14/pm_20170714_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:12.0401] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/07/13/pm_20170713_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:12.1863] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/07/12/pm_20170712_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:12.3280] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/07/11/pm_20170711_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:12.4686] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/07/10/pm_20170710_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:12.6122] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/07/07/pm_20170707_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:12.7590] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/07/06/pm_20170706_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:12.8984] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/07/05/pm_20170705_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:13.0419] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/07/04/pm_20170704_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:13.1847] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/07/03/pm_20170703_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:13.3239] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/30/pm_20170630_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:13.4634] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/29/pm_20170629_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:13.6059] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/28/pm_20170628_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:13.7507] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/27/pm_20170627_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:13.8958] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/26/pm_20170626_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:14.0364] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/23/pm_20170623_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:14.1780] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/22/pm_20170622_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:14.3218] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/21/pm_20170621_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:14.4618] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/20/pm_20170620_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:14.6004] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/19/pm_20170619_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:14.7433] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/16/pm_20170616_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:14.8851] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/15/pm_20170615_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    [17-07-16 11:21:15.0263] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (193) Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, https://play.podtrac.com/APM-Marketplace/play.publicradio.org/rss/d/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/06/14/pm_20170614_pod_64.mp3: Connect timed out: .
    Pressing play on an episode displays the above messages again in the log, shows the episode in the playlist, but it does not play and the counter does not move.

    If I enter the same podcast into LMS with the https changed to http in the URL, I get similar behavior when I try to open the podcast list of episodes. However, when I press play on an episode, the episode is added to the playlist as now playing, and the time counter starts counting, but there is no sound. After a few seconds, the following message appears in the log:

    Code:
    [17-07-16 11:39:00.7044] Slim::Player::Song::open (471) Warning: stream failed to open [https://download.publicradio.org/podcast/marketplace/pm/2017/07/14/pm_20170714_pod_64.mp3?srcid=rss&listeningSessionID=5952f6ddb508da80_1620929_NVKjIAzn__0000000oILd].

    Any ideas how to fix either of these? Do I need to use the "hack" described earlier in this thread to convert the requested episode URLs from https to http? How much longer is that likely to work?

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    Both of the podcast problems I described in the previous post are fixed with the s/https/http/ patch described on page 2 of this thread.

    I am still having trouble with Science Friday, https://www.sciencefriday.com/feed/p...odcast-episode

    When I try to add the podcast URL in the Podcasts tab of the web interface Settings page of LMS, the log spits out:

    Code:
    [17-07-16 12:53:00.2519] Slim::Formats::XML::gotErrorViaHTTP (310) Error: getting http://www.sciencefriday.com/feed/podcast/podcast-episode
    Connect timed out:
    [17-07-16 12:53:00.2521] Slim::Plugin::Podcast::Settings::__ANON__ (119) Error validating feed http://www.sciencefriday.com/feed/podcast/podcast-episode: Connect timed out:
    The Podcast is not added to my list of podcasts whether I use:
    https://www.sciencefriday.com/feed/p...odcast-episode
    http://www.sciencefriday.com/feed/po...odcast-episode
    http://www.sciencefriday.com/audio/scifriaudio.xml

    The only difference is the URL shown in the log entries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Stimson View Post
    Both of the podcast problems I described in the previous post are fixed with the s/https/http/ patch described on page 2 of this thread.

    I am still having trouble with Science Friday, https://www.sciencefriday.com/feed/p...odcast-episode.
    The fix is gave is a crude stoipgap hack for those sites which still support "http://" in parallel with "https://" - the sciencefriday only support https even if you give http and so it will not work.

    What version of LMS are you running ? If not 7.9.1 - upgrade. I'd also try the "proxied streaming" method for the player (Web UI Settings/Player/Audio)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    The fix is gave is a crude stoipgap hack for those sites which still support "http://" in parallel with "https://"
    I understand that, which is why I wondered how much longer it's going to work in my first post.

    - the sciencefriday only support https even if you give http and so it will not work.
    Would that prevent the server from adding the URL to its list of podcasts? With the other podcasts, I could at least add them to my podcasts list even without the s/http/https/ kluge.

    What version of LMS are you running ? If not 7.9.1 - upgrade. I'd also try the "proxied streaming" method for the player (Web UI Settings/Player/Audio)
    I'm running the nightly build that I downloaded yesterday. For the exact version, see my first post.

    The result of switching the players to proxied streaming, and removing the s/http/https/ kluge, is that Wait, Wait...Don't Tell Me still plays, but Marketplace does not. It eliminates the error messages when I pull up the list of Marketplace episodes, but when I play an episode the timer counts but there is no sound.

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    Strangely, proxied streaming also doesn't work when I use the http/https kluge and try to play a Marketplace podcast episode. It only plays if I have direct streaming and use the hack to change https to http.

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    Re SciFri

    For SciFri, I think the problem is them, not SB.

    I have on my Podcast List 4 Podcast paths for this: the original, the two listed above + this RSS:
    https://sciencefriday.libsyn.com/rss

    At various times, using either my Boom or my Baby Radio, there will be a "redirect limit exceeded" message. On the Remote control app when logged into MySB, all of them have a listing and I can play from there. On the unit displays, the RSS listing works and even shows the right icon.

    For Wait Wait, I have this listing:
    http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast.php?id=344098539

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Stimson View Post
    Strangely, proxied streaming also doesn't work when I use the http/https kluge and try to play a Marketplace podcast episode. It only plays if I have direct streaming and use the hack to change https to http.
    IIRC since the hack is only so that the http URL can be passed to a player for direct playing - it would have no effect on proxied playing. Proxied streaming measn LMS gets data first and then apssed to player. I thought when https support was added to LMS in 7.9.1 - proxied stream should also be able to handle https.

    To understand the issues you need to test URLs (e.g. with https and http) with something like mplayer (or possibly wget) where http redirection etc. can be logged and analysed.

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