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    Senior Member Mnyb's Avatar
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    Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS

    Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS ?

    Any preference ?

    I want to avoid:

    Unsuported perl versions.

    Unsolved dependencies that needs me to install exotic stuff thats not in any repo add symlinks compile stuff etc hunt down cpan and extra perl thingys...
    Bad support for popular plugins.
    SSL problems , i had to solve that for my current OS .

    Good to have :

    Good media codec support .
    Firewall in Linux that you actually understands how to configure .
    Excellent package system .
    Fast, reasonably lean on resources not bloated ,but not as bare bones that nothing works .
    Good forums and genral support.
    Possibly a ligthweigth desktop unless i chose to have it headless as usual.

    If headless without GUI and only a web-UI for admin make it very capable eb-UI that actually works and lets you fix stuff (the firewall tool in my current distro does not really work )

    Undecided if i want it to have a desktop or not . My current headless Linux box is fast and lean and works nice with just 1gb of ram.
    ..But to adjust every mundane thing there is a web-UI or SSH that’s it (it's an obscure os, ClearOS )

    But could be cool to learn how use remote desktops etc in linux. But a simple linux server with a good web admin tool is also ok.

    The thing will run in a VM on a NUC5i5RYH with ESXi its i5 with 32GB of ram (intention is to learn something about running VM's with VM vare ESXi)
    The VM will be on an internal fast M2 256GB SSD the machine has another 2,5" 1TB SSD.
    ON the same Host I will have a NAS running as a VM.

    I assume you guys and gals now more than me and appreciate good suggestions .
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    Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub.
    Bedroom/Office: Boom
    Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
    Misc use: Radio (with battery)
    iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad
    (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
    server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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    My vote would be CentOS 7

    Mine runs LMS VERY reliably with only a few tweaks

    Mine runs on ESXi 6.5 and have in the past ESXi 5.0 5.5 6.0 and 6.0U2

    Not sure about multimedia support, I've never had any problems

    Not that lightweight but not hungry on resources

    I use Webmin and Usermin for configs

    Firewalld works well and is relativly esy to configure

    Only (slight) problem might be SELinux but can be disabled or set to "permissive"

    And of course you have all the support of Redhat users as well

    PS I can give you a script to get it all up and running if you'd like to try it
    Last edited by Jeff07971; 2016-12-29 at 18:09.
    Players: SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezePlayer,PiCorePlayer x3,Wandboard
    Server: LMS Version: 7.9.1 - 1503129892 on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U1 on Dell T320
    Plugins: AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud
    Remotes: iPeng8/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite
    Music: 383GB,1269 albums 17756 songs 4381 artists mostly FLACs

    Want a webapp ? See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...Webapp-for-LMS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff07971 View Post
    My vote would be CentOS 7

    Mine runs LMS VERY reliably with only a few tweaks

    Mine runs on ESXi 6.5 and have in the past ESXi 5.0 5.5 6.0 and 6.0U2

    Not sure about multimedia support, I've never had any problems

    Not that lightweight but not hungry on resources

    I use Webmin and Usermin for configs

    Firewalld works well and is relativly esy to configure

    Only (slight) problem might be SELinux but can be disabled or set to "permissive"

    And of course you have all the support of Redhat users as well

    PS I can give you a script to get it all up and running if you'd like to try it
    Thankyou , CentOS7 noted . I'm used to install the rpm package with my currrent setup.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub.
    Bedroom/Office: Boom
    Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
    Misc use: Radio (with battery)
    iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad
    (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
    server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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    Senior Member Mnyb's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff07971 View Post
    My vote would be CentOS 7

    Mine runs LMS VERY reliably with only a few tweaks

    Mine runs on ESXi 6.5 and have in the past ESXi 5.0 5.5 6.0 and 6.0U2

    Not sure about multimedia support, I've never had any problems

    Not that lightweight but not hungry on resources

    I use Webmin and Usermin for configs

    Firewalld works well and is relativly esy to configure

    Only (slight) problem might be SELinux but can be disabled or set to "permissive"

    And of course you have all the support of Redhat users as well

    PS I can give you a script to get it all up and running if you'd like to try it
    PS,what kind of ram and CPU etc are you giving your VM ?
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub.
    Bedroom/Office: Boom
    Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
    Misc use: Radio (with battery)
    iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad
    (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
    server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnyb View Post
    PS,what kind of ram and CPU etc are you giving your VM ?
    I give it quite a lot but thats becuase I can, It never really uses much at all.
    This server does my DHCP, DNS (With adblocker), Mail (IMAP,SMTP and Webmail), SAMBA, HTTP (5 VS's) and LMS.
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    Going to update my Webmin now !
    Players: SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezePlayer,PiCorePlayer x3,Wandboard
    Server: LMS Version: 7.9.1 - 1503129892 on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U1 on Dell T320
    Plugins: AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud
    Remotes: iPeng8/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite
    Music: 383GB,1269 albums 17756 songs 4381 artists mostly FLACs

    Want a webapp ? See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...Webapp-for-LMS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnyb View Post
    Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS ?

    Any preference ?

    I want to avoid:

    Unsuported perl versions.

    Unsolved dependencies that needs me to install exotic stuff thats not in any repo add symlinks compile stuff etc hunt down cpan and extra perl thingys...
    Bad support for popular plugins.
    SSL problems , i had to solve that for my current OS .

    Good to have :

    Good media codec support .
    Firewall in Linux that you actually understands how to configure .
    Excellent package system .
    Fast, reasonably lean on resources not bloated ,but not as bare bones that nothing works .
    Good forums and genral support.
    Possibly a ligthweigth desktop unless i chose to have it headless as usual.

    If headless without GUI and only a web-UI for admin make it very capable eb-UI that actually works and lets you fix stuff (the firewall tool in my current distro does not really work )
    .......
    I assume you guys and gals now more than me and appreciate good suggestions .
    You don't want much, huh?

    I'm a fan of dpkg and apt-get myself, so I generally suggest a debian/Ubuntu variant. You will never get away from Perl version creep however. Ubuntu has a server version, and the repos are stuffed full of good stuff so there's little messing about required. I'd go that way.
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    Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0
    Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums..

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    Quote Originally Posted by drmatt View Post
    You don't want much, huh?

    I'm a fan of dpkg and apt-get myself, so I generally suggest a debian/Ubuntu variant. You will never get away from Perl version creep however. Ubuntu has a server version, and the repos are stuffed full of good stuff so there's little messing about required. I'd go that way.
    Yes I'm familar with debian/ubunto i use a Linux mint desktop and openmediavault NAS as a VM so i already have two debian based systems .

    However my current LMS server is RHEL based .

    Perl creep ? just want to aviod the "does not work at all" that happens to many using very current distros that exceeds LMS perl versions .

    So is for example Debian 7 based systems OK with the LMS perl version ? same for corresponding RHEL based system ?

    So if you gentlemen suggests distros , any knowledge about the perl version compatibility is very appreciated

    Thanks for the responses so far
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    Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub.
    Bedroom/Office: Boom
    Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
    Misc use: Radio (with battery)
    iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad
    (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
    server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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    Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS

    > Perl creep ? just want to aviod the "does not work at all" that
    > happens to many using very current distros that exceeds LMS perl
    > versions .


    Then you better stay away from distributions which try to be on the
    bleeding edge. HREL/CentOS certainly is one of them. Debian is another one.

    > So is for example Debian 7 based systems OK with the LMS perl version ?
    > same for corresponding RHEL based system ?


    Yes, I'm pretty sure that should be fine. Just resist the temptation to
    switch to their testing or dev branches, as you'd give up all of the
    stability you are looking for. And I'm not talking about stability like
    not crashing, but rather stability in system configuration, program
    versions etc. That's what these distributions are known for.

    Some Ubuntu LTS version might offer similar stability. And never update
    day 0 of a release anyway :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
    Then you better stay away from distributions which try to be on the
    bleeding edge. HREL/CentOS certainly is one of them. Debian is another one.
    Hi Michael

    Are you saying you RHEL/CentOS and Debian try to stay on the bleeding edge or you would recommend them becuase they don't ?
    Players: SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezePlayer,PiCorePlayer x3,Wandboard
    Server: LMS Version: 7.9.1 - 1503129892 on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U1 on Dell T320
    Plugins: AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud
    Remotes: iPeng8/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite
    Music: 383GB,1269 albums 17756 songs 4381 artists mostly FLACs

    Want a webapp ? See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...Webapp-for-LMS

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    Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS

    >> Then you better stay away from distributions which try to be on the
    >> bleeding edge. HREL/CentOS certainly is one of them. Debian is another
    >> one.
    >>

    >
    > Are you saying you RHEL/CentOS and Debian try to stay on the bleeding
    > edge or you would recommend them becuase they don't ?


    Oops.... I'm sorry for the confusion. No, I wanted to say they were of the other, stable flavor.



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