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  1. #1
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    Squeezebox 2 cannot find LMS

    I've just added a Squeezebox 2 to my Boom, Radio x2, Duet x2, Touch x2 set up and have found that although it will happily connect to either of my routers, it can only see LMS when connected to the "extender" router (same SSID, connected to main router by ethernet cable, fixed IP).

    Bizarrely (to my mind) LMS itself is also hard wired to the main router in that it is running on a ReadyNAS connect via Ethernet.

    This problem exactly replicates the issue I also have with my Android phone/Orange Squeeze detailed here:

    http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...LMS&highlight=

    I just don't get it - why can't these devices see LMS when they are directly connected to the router that LMS itself is physically connected to and yet all is fine when they connect via the repeater/extender router?

    I'm intending to use the Squeezebox 2 in a location that is essentially halfway between the main router and the repeater so any help in trying to get to the bottom of htis would be very much appreciated.

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    What do you mean by repeater/extender router? Do you really mean a switch or are you trying to use a router as a switch which you can do but only if you set it up properly?
    Pi3 with piCoreplayer music on QNAP TS419p via NFS iThingys/iPeng/Tablets/Jogglers
    Living Room - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s
    Office - Pi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
    Dining Room -> SB Boom Kitchen -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
    Bedroom (Bedside) - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones

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    Quote Originally Posted by d6jg View Post
    What do you mean by repeater/extender router? Do you really mean a switch or are you trying to use a router as a switch which you can do but only if you set it up properly?
    I'm using a second router, set up as per the guide here:

    http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/ne...mmary-3633135/

    The second router seems to work completely perfectly and the "main" one seems to work perfectly for everything apart from certain (but not all) devices' ability to see the LMS.

    I'd like to think that there is something simple in terms of the router/repeater set-up to account for this but I'm at a loss as to how to track it down.

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    That guide is correct (if massively long winded). You haven't by any chance plugged the repeater in using its WAN port have you? And you did disable the DHCP server on the repeater didn't you?
    Pi3 with piCoreplayer music on QNAP TS419p via NFS iThingys/iPeng/Tablets/Jogglers
    Living Room - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s
    Office - Pi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
    Dining Room -> SB Boom Kitchen -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
    Bedroom (Bedside) - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones

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    Many thanks for the further reply - and for your time in wading through that horribly formatted PC Advisor website.

    I've been checking the set up again and I think I've cracked it: I think the problem was that I'd set the IP address of the repeater *within* the range that the main router was allocating. I won't pretend to know why this would have caused the problems it did but in correcting it, both my phone and Squeezebox 2 seem to be happily connecting to LMS.

    This has been tormenting me since moving into this house almost 6 months ago so I'm thrilled to finally have a solution

    Many thanks, once again, for your time and advice.

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    That would cause an issue! Chances are that something else had the same IP address.
    Pi3 with piCoreplayer music on QNAP TS419p via NFS iThingys/iPeng/Tablets/Jogglers
    Living Room - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s
    Office - Pi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
    Dining Room -> SB Boom Kitchen -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
    Bedroom (Bedside) - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones

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    I knew it was too good to be true...

    The SB2 seems to be working fine, Orange Squeeze on the phone seems to be OK but now my laptop no longer lists any of the Squeezeboxes on the "network" page and I cannot access LMS via the browser even if I type "192.168.0.2:9000" directly into the address bar.

    I need to revisit this in the morning, I think.

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    Reboot the laptop or do at a command prompt

    Ipconfig /renew
    Pi3 with piCoreplayer music on QNAP TS419p via NFS iThingys/iPeng/Tablets/Jogglers
    Living Room - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s
    Office - Pi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
    Dining Room -> SB Boom Kitchen -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
    Bedroom (Bedside) - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones

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    Restarting the PC righted things at that end - to be fair this is something that seems to happen every once in a while regardless of what else has been happening.

    The SB2 seems to be behaving itself connected to the main router but the phone still seems to only allow Orange Squeeze and Squeezeplayer to see LMS when it is connected through the repeater. I suspect that the brief period of it appearing to work last night was caused by the phone connecting to the repeater despite being closer to the main router while the latter was rebooting. As of this morning, if I'm closer to the main router Orange Squeeze tells me that there is "no route to host".

    I'm starting to revert to my original hunch that this is some strange incompatibility between my Samsung phone and the router...

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    Look at the wireless settings on the main router. Do they include a "client isolation" option? This is where the wireless client can see the internet but nothing else on the network.
    Pi3 with piCoreplayer music on QNAP TS419p via NFS iThingys/iPeng/Tablets/Jogglers
    Living Room - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s
    Office - Pi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
    Dining Room -> SB Boom Kitchen -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
    Bedroom (Bedside) - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones

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