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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal Hibon View Post
    I have thought about that but I see a few possible issues with such a setup:

    * What kind of Internet connection do you have (in terms of speed) on you NAS / file server side?
    * And what kind of files are you streaming (mp3, flac, others)?
    * What kind of internet connection do you need on your phone to have a reliable stream?
    * Are you charged by data usage on your 3/4G connection on your phone? If so, is it expensive?
    IPeng is smart enough to tell the server to transcode when not on the local network so it's always 256k mp3 .

    My internet is 100/100 MB cable/fiber but i used it at 100/10 to .

    Phone is 4G cost dunno company phone with good rates ( as i work for a big global company ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal Hibon View Post
    I have thought about that but I see a few possible issues with such a setup:

    * What kind of Internet connection do you have (in terms of speed) on you NAS / file server side?
    * And what kind of files are you streaming (mp3, flac, others)?
    * What kind of internet connection do you need on your phone to have a reliable stream?
    * Are you charged by data usage on your 3/4G connection on your phone? If so, is it expensive?
    I see the same issues of being in cellular network coverage, buffering, lost connections, possible data/cellular costs. I worked for Clear while they were having growing and network issues during their build-out as an RF Consultant so I had a free mobile Internet connection and used the VPN connection to LMS server on occasion. I still preferred having an actual server in the vehicle (but of course Clear was perfect for a rental). There connection has enough bandwidth to stream NetFlix movies while mobile.

    With the R Pi and cheap small large capacity drives, I am a fan of LMS in vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iPhone View Post
    With the R Pi and cheap small large capacity drives, I am a fan of LMS in vehicle.
    There is an added bonus to this: you have a system that you can bring with you during travel / vacation. That's a second use of my CarSqueeze system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teeitup View Post
    I have a rpi. It runs m2p. I had a pair of A2 speakers not doing anything. I converted my flac library to mp3 in order to get my entire collection on a usb stick. The wireless works great and I can control it with my phone. I take it places and it works great. I all fits into a box for easy transport.

    My next step was to use it in the car. Especially for long trips. Of course the speakers won't be needed.

    How to power the pi is the question. I've read of people powering them using a simple usb charger(2.1amp).This would be a problem in my car because the 12V ports shut off with the car. The ports in the wife's SUV are always on. Some claim to run them using a high capacity power bank.
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    There are so many power solutions for the car it is almost endless. One of my Atlanta music friends uses his 12VDC trolling motor battery from his bass boat when he is running LMS in the car. One can plug into an Inverter and use the same equipment one would use in the home by running off AC from the Inverter. Or one can bring a permanent hot line in from the vehicle battery to a terminal block and operate whatever DC to DC converters one needs for the devices one wishes to power up. This is how I do it in both my vehicles. Each device has its own power cord coming off its specific DC/DC power supply so that if I wish to move a device back into the house then its AC power supply is always ready and in the house waiting.
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    Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1

    Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s
    Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s
    Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM
    Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio
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    been using this remote streaming for years now...

    1) installed subsonic on same system as lms (mine is a bananapi)

    2) both access same music store (in this case a very large HD attached to the bananapi's sata port)

    3) subsonic app on phone streams to my cars stereo over bluetooth (HQ)

    subsonic has built in realtime transcoding and automatically converts my flacs to 128bit mp3 in realtime and streams them to my phone over 3g just fine

    subsonic also plays through a neat web front end.. awesome software... you can even give other people logins to upload there music or play/download yours with limited rights

    PS If you put a large sdcard in your phone, subsonic cache's songs on first play, so over wifi at home cache first for play back later if in bad 3g area or no data allowance !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal Hibon View Post
    This works fine but I'm thinking of modifying it a little bit and add a relay: the relay would switch the BPI to the car USB supply as soon as the USB connector is powered. This will solve a small issue I have now: when the power bank's batteries are completely depleted then it doesn't output 5 volts until there is sufficient capacity build up in the batteries (in other words: it doesn't output power when it is charging completely empty batteries).
    On a whim I just built a little Pi to use in the car. I bought a pretty cheap Patriot PCPB87002 power bank with passthrough power thinking I could use it as a UPS. I thought that for routine stops I'd just pause the music, leave the Pi powered by the bank and then un-pause the music when I got back on the road.

    But I've found that while the little Patriot box reliably continues to supply output power when the input power goes away, it usually (not always, but most of the time) very briefly disrupts the output power when the input power is applied. So the Pi will keep running while I'm parked but will reboot immediately when I restart the car. I've just written to Patriot to ask if that's normal, also making it clear that my use of their gadget as a UPS isn't really the intended purpose and I'm not accusing them, blah blah blah.

    Have you had any similar issues with your power bank and, if not, what are you using?

    On a slightly related note, my phone is a non-rooted Android, so of course I can't connect it to an ad hoc network (thanks, Google!). When I first tried my setup I brought along an iPad since Apple doesn't have the same limitation. That's obviously not very practical, but I quickly discovered a workaround: I turn on the hotspot/tethering on my Android phone and have the Pi connect to it. That allows me to use OrangeSqueeze, SSH (for shutting down after the final stop), etc. That's given me some grief with IP addresses, most weirdly yesterday with the Pi apparently running LMS on 192.168.43.85 but accepting SSH connections on 192.168.1.84!) but I'm hoping that setting a static IP on the Pi will fix that and hopefully not collide with the phone's DHCP server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atrocity View Post
    Have you had any similar issues with your power bank and, if not, what are you using?
    No I haven't. The powerbank I'm using is a 10.000 mAh one of this brand: http://www.gpbatteries.com/int_en/po...-powerbank/10m
    Works very well. It is able to keep the BPI going for about 15 hours or so and it doesn't interrupt the BPI even when starting the car engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal Hibon View Post
    No I haven't. The powerbank I'm using is a 10.000 mAh one of this brand: http://www.gpbatteries.com/int_en/po...-powerbank/10m
    Works very well. It is able to keep the BPI going for about 15 hours or so and it doesn't interrupt the BPI even when starting the car engine.
    That's very, very impressive! Sadly, it appears to be unavailable in the USA, but maybe the GL401 (http://us.gpbatteries.com/index.php?...347&Itemid=620) will work. Thank you for the information!

    Now if I could just figure out how to get OrangeSqueeze to reliably connect to the Pi. Works great on the home network, is spotty at best in the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atrocity View Post

    Now if I could just figure out how to get OrangeSqueeze to reliably connect to the Pi. Works great on the home network, is spotty at best in the car.
    In the beginning I also used my iPhone's wifi hotspot connection. But that didn't really work in a stable way. There is a certain sequence that things need to boot (I don't remember the exact sequence). Moving away from the BPI (leaving the car) and coming back was one of those situations where things didn't work well.
    That's all gone once I installed hostap. That works great, but the "down side" is that you need to configure fix IP addresses on the phone and on the BPI. You could probably even fix that by using some sort of lightweight DHCP server on the BPI. The fix IP thing isn't that bad; my iPhone remembers the profile of my CarSqueeze and it doesn't interfere with other profiles on my iPhone. Bottom line, I'm happy with how it works today.
    Cambridge Audio 851D-S -> Focal MP1200 -> Focal Electra 1028 Be
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal Hibon View Post
    In the beginning I also used my iPhone's wifi hotspot connection. But that didn't really work in a stable way. There is a certain sequence that things need to boot (I don't remember the exact sequence). Moving away from the BPI (leaving the car) and coming back was one of those situations where things didn't work well.
    That's all gone once I installed hostap. That works great, but the "down side" is that you need to configure fix IP addresses on the phone and on the BPI. You could probably even fix that by using some sort of lightweight DHCP server on the BPI. The fix IP thing isn't that bad; my iPhone remembers the profile of my CarSqueeze and it doesn't interfere with other profiles on my iPhone. Bottom line, I'm happy with how it works today.
    Sounds like Apple's non-traditional network capabilities are much better than Android's. Or at least as Android is set up on my Samsung phone. I can't do DHCP reservations and can't control which IPs are handed out via DHCP. At the moment I'm finding that the phone I use as the tether is handing out one IP while I have a different one coded on the Pi. OrangeSqueeze running on that phone has simply stopped connecting to LMS on the Pi at all. But if I network in an older LG phone, its OrangeSqueeze instance will happily connect on both IPs, that is, the one that the phone's DHCP is handing out AND the one I have hard-coded. I love computers.

    I'll look into hostap again. I remember seeing it a while back and getting the impression that it wasn't going to be happy unless it also had an Internet connection, which would not necessarily be the case in the car. Maybe I completely misunderstood.

    As for the powerbank, I wasn't able to find a GP for sale in the USA (maybe I didn't look hard enough) but the makers of https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XN5SGTV claim that it will work or my money back. I'm not 100% sure they understood exactly what I was asking, but the price is certainly right.

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