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    Oh, and that someone is probably not going to be Logitech
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    Quote Originally Posted by pippin View Post
    Oh, and that someone is probably not going to be Logitech
    yes, very good point. May need to move to the Roon/SBT route with that said and drop LMS which is a real shame.

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    MQA implimentation in Squeezebox

    An overwhelming majority of Squeezebox owners who are also audiophiles recognize that the SB onboard DAC is not up to audiophile quality.

    Using either digital outputs (TOSLINK or COAX), the SB signal bypasses the onboard DAC and allows for substitution of a quality DAC, possible pre-amplifier, and main amplifier.

    MQA-certified DACs are designed such that they completely "unfold" (3X) the MQA file* and are "tuned" to each particular DAC hardware implementation. This custom tuning is what pippin previously referred to as "certification and license fees."

    Since not all DACs are created equal, what Squeezebox streamer owners want to discover is which MQA-certified DAC will give the best sound to THEIR ears with THEIR amplifier and speakers.
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    * http://www.mqa.co.uk/customer/how-it-works and http://bobtalks.co.uk/blog/science-mqa/mqa-playback/
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanSmedra View Post
    An overwhelming majority of Squeezebox owners who are also audiophiles recognize that the SB onboard DAC is not up to audiophile quality.
    What is that statement based on? How large is that "overwhelming" majority?

    By the way, there is a separate "audiophile" section for audiophile discussions.
    "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanSmedra View Post
    What Squeezebox streamer owners need to discover and want to know is which MQA-certified DAC sounds best with their particularly-configured audiophile system.
    It makes no sense. If MQA sounds exactly like intended in the studio all MQA DACs can't sound different. Or is it MQA that makes no sense?
    Last edited by Wombat; 2017-09-17 at 18:58.
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