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    Senior Member DJanGo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal Hibon View Post
    You could leave your NAS in your will. No one will check if its filled with downloaded music or ripped music :-)
    Except your Database
    I'd like to use only my own tags and (yes i do use crappy lossyfiles) convert settings

    I buy tracks and albums but only as hardware.
    Single Tracks on Sampler's like Putumayo presents ..... or Best of one Hit Wonders.

    There is a reason for everything - i remember a Maxi CD from The Clash that i only bought for the title Song "London calling".
    There was also a Track called "Rock the Casbah" that i didnt like the 1.st to 50th. time listen to that CD but after the 51th. listening i didnt listen to the title Song again - the former reason why i bought that (my first The Clash CD) [long long time ago]....

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    Almost always CD's here. I have bought the occasional track when I was looking for something specific from years gone by, like Sheila - Tommy Roe... Had to have it for a compilation I put together.
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    Interesting so many of the respondents here are still mainly buying CDs. The world is changing but apparently not everywhere.

    I, too, sometimes buy CDs, especially if the price is right and I don't have access to a CD-quality download. This often means buying from secondary sellers on Amazon or such, including second hand (although new product is often as cheap as second hand). However, most often, I'll get an album from an online source, with many of these offering CD-quality as well as cover art and often PDFs of the liner notes. My sources include places like CDBaby, Bandcamp, the Canadian site Zunior (best prices, including excellent recent offerings by artists like Buffy Saint-Marie), label sites (e.g. Nonesuch) and various others. When pressed (and for albums where I don't particularly care about CD quality) I make use of my eMusic account, which has acceptable quality and prices half that of iTunes. In desperation I'll resort to iTunes.

    I'll admit there are times when I've purchased a lossy file and gone to a pirate download for lossless. I don't feel very guilty.

    I have boxes and boxes, sealed, stored in my basement, of CDs. Many never listened-to, just ripped. A pile of plastic that will become landfill one day, I'm sure.

    The legal issues are not straightforward, although some here have claimed to "own" the CDs. True, but you don't own the music. You are technically speaking only allowed to listen, and perhaps make a copy for your own use. It's not really much different than a purchased download -- you can listen, make copies for yourself, but not make copies for others. While it may not be technically legal to pass on your collection to others (this isn't clear, it might be), as long as it is a single copy and others are deleted, I am absolutely certain that no one will take any official exception. So pass on your digital collection to your heirs. If properly backed up, it's probably more secure than on a CD, which is subject to it's own long-term physical mortality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonM View Post
    Interesting so many of the respondents here are still mainly buying CDs. The world is changing but apparently not everywhere.
    Well, I guess if we would mention our age category we would start to see a trend... :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonM View Post
    Interesting so many of the respondents here are still mainly buying CDs. The world is changing but apparently not everywhere.
    Lol....

    I still have all my taken analogue pictures that i shot myself including the negatives.
    But i knew some pictures that i shoot with my digicam that are lost cause of a harddiskfailure or some thiefs who want my PC & NAS without asking me....

    "everyone" can steal a NAS - "no one" would steal your CDs..

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    I buy lossles from the usual online sources mentioned in previus post + some more including HD tracks as a last resort . If thats not a posibilitty i buy a CD .

    I rarely buy singles or one track at the time .

    I consider artist that can not produce a full length album with mostly decent songs not worth my time anyway .

    But ofcourse they are exceptions some songs just get stuck in your head and you must have them .
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    As I posted before I do buy CDs almost exclusively but I have noticed that digital purchases of new releases often include stuff that isn't made available on the CD version but only if you opt for a deluxe CD/DVD or CD/Blu-ray box set which then leaves you the problem of ripping from the DVD or Blu-ray. I bought Rattle That Lock in 24/96 from Quboz for exactly that reason.

    If this becomes the norm I might find myself buying more downloads. Never a single track though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJanGo View Post
    Lol....

    I still have all my taken analogue pictures that i shot myself including the negatives.
    But i knew some pictures that i shoot with my digicam that are lost cause of a harddiskfailure or some thiefs who want my PC & NAS without asking me....

    "everyone" can steal a NAS - "no one" would steal your CDs..
    Well, I'm definitely a geezer, but that's no excuse to not float with the tide, at least to some extent.

    If you have your CDs as your backup, they'll be gone in the flood or the fire. I back up all my music to multiple places at home (main archive on my computer, hard drive on my music server, the 320 mp3 copy on a separate drive). I also make a full backup of both lossless and lossy versions onto two small hard drives that I put in a safety deposit box at the bank.

    And, of course, something like half or 2/3 of the total collection is in fact on CD, in those boxes in the basement.

    As to digital photos, those are backed up on the same hard drives, at the bank. Including the old slide and negative images, the priceless ones professionally scanned to digital files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonM View Post
    A pile of plastic that will become landfill one day, I'm sure.
    You're certainly right. Maybe I've to re-think why I'm doing this.

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    usenet and CD's

    So that would be BOTH.

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