View Full Version : Playlist Manager version 6.0 released
Philip Meyer
2011-08-28, 07:06
For all those people that have been pestering me to release a version that works with SBS 6.0, I've just uploaded Playlist Manager version 6.0.
The plugin should be available through SBS Plugin download manager, or available for manual install from my website (http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk/Music/slim/PlaylistManPlugin.htm).
This version is mainly to add support for SBS 6.0 and greater, but also contains some minor changes, including:
- Fixed some existing problems with exiting the Save Playlist and Add to New Playlist menu actions for ip3k players.
- More consistent with where the user is returned to when exiting menus across all types of players.
- Better support for adding Remote tracks/playlists to playlists.
- Cleaned up some log messages.
I've tested with SBS 7.5.6 and SBS 7.6 latest nightly (7.6.2 trunk revision 33231).
Many thanks to Kurt Poulsen who helped with beta testing, esp. on a Squeezebox Controller.
Phil
Philip, I get 404 errors when trying to access your web site.
For all those people that have been pestering me to release a version that works with SBS 6.0, I've just uploaded Playlist Manager version 6.0.
The plugin should be available through SBS Plugin download manager, or available for manual install from my website (http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk/Music/slim/PlaylistManPlugin.htm).
This version is mainly to add support for SBS 6.0 and greater, but also contains some minor changes, including:
- Fixed some existing problems with exiting the Save Playlist and Add to New Playlist menu actions for ip3k players.
- More consistent with where the user is returned to when exiting menus across all types of players.
- Better support for adding Remote tracks/playlists to playlists.
- Cleaned up some log messages.
I've tested with SBS 7.5.6 and SBS 7.6 latest nightly (7.6.2 trunk revision 33231).
Many thanks to Kurt Poulsen who helped with beta testing, esp. on a Squeezebox Controller.
Phil
Good!
I'll try later this week, must go away on business , do you have donations setup somewhere
Philip Meyer
2011-08-28, 23:51
That's annoying - it appears that my ISP's web hosting service has gone done down. Being a bank holiday, they seem to be slow investigating the fault too :-(
It's not the plugin - many people downloaded it yesterday (over 100, if the website stats are to be trusted), and several people emailed to tell me it was now working perfectly in 6.1.
Phil
Philip Meyer
2011-08-29, 04:53
>That's annoying - it appears that my ISP's web hosting service has gone done down.
Appears to be back again now. Anyone still having problems getting the plugin to download?
DecTenToo
2011-08-29, 05:05
Hi, it's now working for me ...
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Richard
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>That's annoying - it appears that my ISP's web hosting service has gone
done down.
Appears to be back again now. Anyone still having problems getting the
plugin to download?
Philip Meyer
2011-08-29, 06:53
>I'll try later this week, must go away on business , do you have
>donations setup somewhere
May people have requested this over the years. As I'm so busy with my day job, I can't always commit to supporting the plugin with a rapid turnaround.
I didn't want to ask for money for something that I considered/hoped would be part of the SBS software, but as this looks increasingly unlikely, I have extended and continue to extend the plugin to do more.
So, through popular demand, I've added a PayPal donation link on the plugin page.
http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk/Music/slim/PlaylistManPlugin.htm
But above all else, I'm glad that others find it useful, and positive feedback is great to hear!
Phil
>I'll try later this week, must go away on business , do you have
>donations setup somewhere
May people have requested this over the years. As I'm so busy with my day job, I can't always commit to supporting the plugin with a rapid turnaround.
I didn't want to ask for money for something that I considered/hoped would be part of the SBS software, but as this looks increasingly unlikely, I have extended and continue to extend the plugin to do more.
So, through popular demand, I've added a PayPal donation link on the plugin page.
http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk/Music/slim/PlaylistManPlugin.htm
But above all else, I'm glad that others find it useful, and positive feedback is great to hear!
Phil
This plugin and many other functions should be standard features imho :-)
Speaking of a "standard feature" can i create a playlist without having any particular player chosen ?
Thats a limitation of sbs , that you have to save a playlist from the np list of a player.
You don't actually have to listen but you will "occupy" a player while making a playlist.
You plugin is great because when I have an existing playlist I can add to it without disturbing anything else.
Is a to simple idea to somehow create a "dummy player" in sbs that does not output anything it could be named " playlist" or similar.
I have used softsqueeze on my pc to do this before. i could ofcourse install squeezeslave on the server, but a real player uses system resources.
The idea is that all players are bussy probaly synced, and now you want to compose another playlist without breaking playback.
Philip Meyer
2011-08-29, 07:43
>The idea is that all players are bussy probaly synced, and now you want
>to compose another playlist without breaking playback.
What I think you are requesting is already possible through the plugin.
i.e. You can browse to a song/album (within current playlist, or using any normal browse menu) and Add To... > New Playlist. Then add more songs/albums to that playlist, on any player without touching what is currently playing.
>The idea is that all players are bussy probaly synced, and now you want
>to compose another playlist without breaking playback.
What I think you are requesting is already possible through the plugin.
i.e. You can browse to a song/album (within current playlist, or using any normal browse menu) and Add To... > New Playlist. Then add more songs/albums to that playlist, on any player without touching what is currently playing.
i'll try later this week thanks, I was also thinking about the web-UI I'll experiment some more then.
Also the posibilities to rearange list, but I have no acess to my server rigth now so I must figure out whats happening before wasting more electrons.
Philip Meyer
2011-08-29, 07:57
>i'll try later this week thanks, I was also thinking about the web-UI
>I'll experiment some more then.
>Also the posibilities to rearange list, but I have no acess to my
>server rigth now so I must figure out whats happening before wasting
>more electrons.
>
Ah, I haven't provided support for Web UI. My feeling was that it is always going to be easier to manage playlists on the server using other applications and then scan them into SBS. The plugin was for adding music to playlists from a squeezebox player.
It is possible to drag & drop tracks to change order from the standard SBS playlist Web UI screen (but again, much easier/faster to do large edit operations from a dedicated application and then rescan playlists).
yep i pionted Rhytmbox to my music share and did some pl that way, last time there was a party.
yep i pionted Rhytmbox to my music share and did some pl that way, last time there was a party.
But in priciple i think sbs should be more able, if the goal is to compete in the mainstream ?
I'm ok with using different aplications to maintain my music,but it can be a treshold for some.
For all those people that have been pestering me to release a version that works with SBS 6.0, I've just uploaded Playlist Manager version 6.0.l
Thanks!!
Tartifless
2011-09-02, 06:19
Thanks a lot, plugin is working just fine and a lot of people have been waiting for it !
working just fine together with iPeng & SqueezePad in7.6.2 beta, nice :)
Philip Meyer
2011-09-02, 14:31
>working just fine together with iPeng & SqueezePad in7.6.2 beta, nice :)
That's good to hear - I couldn't test on an iPad!
Phil
>working just fine together with iPeng & SqueezePad in7.6.2 beta, nice :)
That's good to hear - I couldn't test on an iPad!
Phil
Yeah, I have been using it on my iPad too (with iPeng) and it's working great. (I don't even remember how to access it from the IP3K players.) Nice to have this one back!
I just tried it on Logitechs Andorid App and the SqueezeCommander. They both works as well.
bluegaspode
2011-10-01, 13:53
Hi Phil,
I see an error in SqueezePad with the latest Playlist Manager plugin version. This is only when SqueezePad is in the 'Playlist Modification Mode' = 'Always Ask' mode, where it tries to detect playable menu items, and then presents a small popup.
As SqueezePlay has no identification for playable menu items (sometimes also the 'do' or 'go' command contain the actual play command), SqueezePad uses a heuristic: whenever behind a 'do' or 'go' command there is exactly the command as behind the actual 'play' command, it considers this menu item to be playable 'leaf' menu item.
Now when one uses the playlist manager 'Add To ...' menu, then there is a menu with some predefined playlists, but also an 'Other ...' menu item where one actually can select all other playlists.
The cometd definition of this menuitem from the logs is as follows:
{
actions => {
add => {
cmd => ["playlistman", "add", "track"],
params => { id => 35_498, menu => 1, other_playlist => 1 },
},
go => 'fix',
play => 'fix',
},
text => "Other ...",
},
(the 'fix' parts are later replaced with the content of the 'add' command)
I think it is wrong to have a mapping for the 'play' and 'add' button here, as a submenu follows and the play command typically does not drill down into a menu.
Also the current mappings is what what confuses SqueezePad. The 'go' command is mapped to the same command as 'play' and so SqueezePad (when in this special mode) thinks this menu item will start playing some tunes.
Any chance, that this menu item can be mapped just with a 'go' command, like it is common for all non-playable menu-items?
Except for this little issue, everything works fine in SqueezePad with your plugin.
bluegaspode
2011-10-02, 10:15
OK - actually it's all other menu-items too, not only the 'Other ...' one.
Attached my proposed patch (full Plugin.pm and patch file).
Essentially it is only using the 'do' command for actual commands (like adding something to a playlist) and 'go' command for item that have a submenu now.
Philip Meyer
2011-10-03, 11:59
Sorry, busy at work for the next week - I'll follow this up ASAP when I'm back to normal.
Phil
Hi there,
I hope this is the right place to post this question.
I often find myself wanting to listen to a playlist I put together a couple of days ago (which I, at that time, couldn't be asked to create a named playlist for).
So far I know of no plugin that provides "playlist history" i.e. a list of recently used "active playlists". I am not necessarily talking about a history of named/defined playlist, but merely a list of playlists that have been "active" a given player recently.
I hope this makes sense.
I realise it is not straight forward to define what a "recent active playlist" is, since adding an album or a song to an active playlist could be interpreted as either 1) a new list or 2) a modification (i.e. no new list). But I am sure this can be defined in some reasonable (perhaps configurable) way.
Does this functionality exist anywhere?
Anyone besides me that would think this would be useful?
Best
-thomas
Philip Meyer
2011-10-05, 14:25
>Does this functionality exist anywhere?
>
I think there was a plugin to remember the last <n> playlists per player, but that was a long time ago. Probably not working now.
Instead, perhaps Erland's plugins could get somewhere close to what you are looking for?
Using TrackStat, it is possible to see a list tracks, albums, genres, etc, ordered by last played. Using SQLPlaylist, you could make a custom query to list albums/songs played in the last day, etc.
Looks like you are right. Great! Thanks.
Now I have to think a bit myself how to do it which is always a worry :-)
>Does this functionality exist anywhere?
>
I think there was a plugin to remember the last <n> playlists per player, but that was a long time ago. Probably not working now.
Instead, perhaps Erland's plugins could get somewhere close to what you are looking for?
Using TrackStat, it is possible to see a list tracks, albums, genres, etc, ordered by last played. Using SQLPlaylist, you could make a custom query to list albums/songs played in the last day, etc.
Philip Meyer
2011-10-09, 02:47
>I think it is wrong to have a mapping for the 'play' and 'add' button
>here, as a submenu follows and the play command typically does not
>drill down into a menu.
>
>Any chance, that this menu item can be mapped just with a 'go' command,
>like it is common for all non-playable menu-items?
>
I was trying to make the plugin work consistently like other menus. In the SB2/3 days, it was common for Play IR button to work the same as Right-arrow to drill into a menu. This can be seen in many menus, eg. in SoftSqueeze, you can use play to go into Settings, and from there Play can be used to go into Information.
However, in 7.7, it does seem more inconsistent now. eg. in Settings > Information, if I press Play on Server Settings, it goes to the Now Playing screen.
So I agree. In my plugin, I'll make Play do nothing on menu items, as right-arrow should be used.
What about the Add action? Does that matter to SqueezePad? I wonder if I should disable that action consistently too?
Phil
Hi Phil,
I was wondering if you had any interest in making Playlist Manager work for tracks from Rhapsody (and other services--but my interest is Rhapsody)? Currently the "Add to..." menu only appears for local tracks, but it would be awesome if we could use the plugin to build playlists containing both local and streaming tracks.
Philip Meyer
2012-01-07, 03:10
>I was wondering if you had any interest in making Playlist Manager work
>for tracks from Rhapsody (and other services--but my interest is
>Rhapsody)? Currently the "Add to..." menu only appears for local
>tracks, but it would be awesome if we could use the plugin to build
>playlists containing both local and streaming tracks.
>
Playlist Manager supports Remote Tracks and Remote Playlists. I don't know how Rhapsody tracks appear in a playlist, if they are not remote tracks.
I haven't used Rhapsody - don't think it's available in UK.
It's possibly an easy tweak to the plugin code, but I won't be able to test it. If you're willing to try a beta version for me, I can post it to you (manual install).
Phil
Sure, I can test a beta version. In a saved playlist, the Rhapsody tracks look like: rhapd://Tra.2034444.mp3. I guess the main problem is that I don't get "Add to.." in the context menu for Rhapsody tracks.
Philip Meyer
2012-01-08, 03:25
>I guess the main problem is
>that I don't get "Add to.." in the context menu for Rhapsody tracks.
Oh. Then it might be harder :-( I don't know if it is possible to register custom menu stuff in the rhapsody menu.
I notice that with CustomBrowse's "Override standard track details" enabled, it isn't possible to get into the "standard song info" for a rhapsody track, so I guess no other plugin has managed to integrate with custom protocol handlers.
I think the problem is integrating with the context menu actions, and if you could get to the Add To actions, they would work.
I had a play using SoftSqueeze, and it appears possible to add a Rhapsody track from the current playlist to another playlist using the IR Remote, but it didn't pick up the track title for the playlist entry (entries appear blank).
Dear Philip Meyer,
Thank you for filling this rather important hole in Logitech's software. Your work is highly appreciated.
However, since I would like the functionality of your plugin while using a computer to access Squeezebox, I am wondering the following:
- Is there any way of using your plugin in the web UI?
- In case of negative answer, are there any plans?
Thank you for your time and help.
Cheers,
Davi
It works in webgui on computer just fine. Also within squeezeplay.
@garym: That is great news, unfortunately I do not get a context menu as I was expecting (I get my usual Firefox context menu). Hence, could you please let me know which browser and web interface you are using? Or elaborate on how to use the plugin with Firefox? Thank you for your time and help.
edit: I am using Logitech Media Server 7.7.2 (on Win7 64 bits) and Playlist Manager 6.0.
@garym: That is great news, unfortunately I do not get a context menu as I was expecting (I get my usual Firefox context menu). Hence, could you please let me know which browser and web interface you are using? Or elaborate on how to use the plugin with Firefox? Thank you for your time and help.
edit: I am using Logitech Media Server 7.7.2 (on Win7 64 bits) and Playlist Manager 6.0.
odd. I'm at the office now (on win7(64), 7.7.2, with playlist manager installed, but when I click on a song track in the active playlist (either in the webGUI or in SqueezePlay as the controller) I'm not seeing an option to add to existing or new playlist. I recall being able to do this in the past. At home is where I typically do this, so I'll have to check there. But even there, I'm typically using ipeng app to access. Like you, in WebGUI, I simply get firefox context menu. I'll have to explore some more, but I'll be away for a few days, so I might not respond anytime soon. Hopefully someone else can chime in too
jimbobvfr400
2012-08-23, 17:03
I believe the context menu is actually the little plus button that appears on the right when you hover over a track.
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2
I am also looking for a context menu, is there a solution yet?
@garym: That is great news, unfortunately I do not get a context menu as I was expecting (I get my usual Firefox context menu). Hence, could you please let me know which browser and web interface you are using? Or elaborate on how to use the plugin with Firefox? Thank you for your time and help.
edit: I am using Logitech Media Server 7.7.2 (on Win7 64 bits) and Playlist Manager 6.0.
I believe the context menu is actually the little plus button that appears on the right when you hover over a track.
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2
Can't find this either. If I use SqueezePlay to control, I can left mouse press on song and get a context menu, one of which is "add to" which allows me to add to any existing playlist or create a new one. (Playlist Manager). Same with ipeng. But with regular LMS webGUI, I can click on song or select "M". This gets me song info menu, and the "+" there is only for adding to current playlist. I can't see any way to add to other playlists.
If I remember correctly this plugin only works trough the player UI not the web-UI ? which is a bit limiting .
If I remember correctly this plugin only works trough the player UI not the web-UI ? which is a bit limiting .
aha. That would explain why I can use it for SqueezePlay, ipeng, etc. but not in webGUI. Doesn't matter to me as I rarely use the webGUI.
hi,
like others in the webgui i can only add the current track to the current playlist, not any other saved playlist - and no other playlist management from the plugin through the webgui
with my duet controller all is fine though BUT i cant see how to delete a track (no menu option to delete a track) from any specific one of several playlists i have .. so for example if i add a track 2x by mistake to a playlist i cant seem to find an option to just delete one of the instances from the playlist ?
am i missing something or is it a bug or missing functionality ?
rgds & thx for the efforts of coding the plugin
ian
kidstypike
2012-11-02, 08:35
hi,
like others in the webgui i can only add the current track to the current playlist, not any other saved playlist - and no other playlist management from the plugin through the webgui
with my duet controller all is fine though BUT i cant see how to delete a track (no menu option to delete a track) from any specific one of several playlists i have .. so for example if i add a track 2x by mistake to a playlist i cant seem to find an option to just delete one of the instances from the playlist ?
am i missing something or is it a bug or missing functionality ?
rgds & thx for the efforts of coding the plugin
ian
It's a while since I owned a Controller, but if you press the "+" button do you get a pop-up menu with "Remove from playlist"?
Using the webUI, highlight the track on the right-hand side, and click the "X".
Philip Meyer
2012-11-02, 16:53
>It's a while since I owned a Controller, but if you press the "+" button
>do you get a pop-up menu with "Remove from playlist"?
My PlaylistMan plugin doesn't offer any additional control to edit the content of a playlist once it is created. Deleting tracks from a playlist should be possible through the SBC/LMS built-in capabilities, but does depend on the version of the server application and the type of user interface.
With LMS 7.8...
The web application allows you to browse into a playlist and delete songs from the playlist. You can also delete a song from the current playlist and then save the playlist.
I don't own a Controller, but on a Touch interface I think you have to play the playlist, and only from the Current Playlist screen can you long-press a track to get the option to remove it, and then you can save the playlist. I don't think it's possible to delete songs directly from an arbitrary playlist.
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