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JimInPT
2009-07-13, 10:28
Hi all,

Got my Squeezebox Boom late last year (currently firmware 47, reporting 100% wireless signal strength) and for the last month or so I've been having many problems keeping it connected to internet radio via SqueezeNetwork - that's my primary application.

When I select a radio station from my favorites list, I almost always get some or all of the following:

- failure to remain connected; it drops to "Stopped" after 30 seconds to 5 minutes. Occasionally remains connected until I switch it off.

- long delays to process volume/menu commands from the remote; it sometimes queues them up, is non responsive with screen display frozen, then all of a sudden will come back alive, whiz by all the queued screen displays very fast and eventually "catch up"

- when connected and playing a radio station, will sometimes indiate "1 of 256" or even "1 or 512" as if it's working down a playlist.

- sometimes when it disconnects, it reports "unable to connect, right to try again" - at that point it will sometimes reconnect all by itself, other times need my manual intervention with the Right pad button or Play button.

I also have a Squeezebox Classic 3 connected downstairs with wireless, on the same router and broadband connection - it doesn't exhibit any of these problems.

Have tried uplugging the Boom for several minutes and reconnecting/rebooting without success.

Any other ideas to try, or do I possibly have a failure issue?

fredpb
2009-07-13, 11:25
Does the connection problem just occur with Internet Radio? Or does it occur while streaming from your PC or a music service?

JimInPT
2009-07-13, 11:33
Does the connection problem just occur with Internet Radio? Or does it occur while streaming from your PC or a music service?

Good questions, Fred; dunno. But I'll do some testing.

I just got my HTPC set up this weekend for music streaming (using a Fit-PC2; very nice, very very small little server) so have limited time on it - so far I've used it mostly with the SB3 and just a few minutes on the Boom to test the connection (that worked fine for the limited time I tried it).

I don't use any music services, just internet radio, so I'll see if I can fire up one of the free ones and see what happens.

Edit: ok, just fired up Pandora's Grateful Dead channel via SqueezeNetwork and left it running; will report back. Next up, I'll try connecting to my CD collection via SC and see how that goes.

JimInPT
2009-07-13, 12:13
Thought of something that might be worth mentioning: about a month ago I added a D-Link DWL-G710 repeater to boost my wireless signal strength upstairs where the Boom resides. I added it to make my laptop up there perform better (went from Very Low to Excellent signal strength), but the Boom also went from about 60% signal strength (which has been adequate since I got it) to 95-100%.

Any chance the Boom might be getting confused between the downstairs router's antenna signal and the repeater that's boosting it? All my other wireless stuff has performed without any problems since adding the repeater.

JimInPT
2009-07-14, 09:22
Update: Pandora ran for several hours without problems, and streaming my CDs via SqueezeCenter also seems to work fine . . . so it doesn't look like a wireless-connection problem. Trying 3 different internet radio stations via SqueezeNetwork, though, still bombs out - they die after a few minutes, varying from about 2 minutes to over half an hour.

On rare occasions the Boom will report "rebuffering" and restarts, but it usually returns back to displaying the "Now Playing" menu choice or to the radio station name with "Stopped" on the top display line - it's not consistent.

Previously, I've also tried varying the buffer delay from 3 to 30 seconds with no effect on the problem; it's currently back to the default 3 seconds.

dgos
2009-07-14, 17:07
I saw the exact same symptoms you are describing with the "previous" (version 46?) version of firmware on my boom. It had been working fine with squeezenetwork... until it updated (2-3? months ago) and then streaming over *squeezenetwork* would go for a while then stop. At first I assumed it was just internet issues as files streamed from my pc via squeezecenter worked fine. It continued on....until the latest firmware came out. Since I have upgraded to version 47 firmware both squeezenetwork and squeezecenter have worked flawlessly.

Not sure how that helps you. Maybe try to do another upgrade/downgrade??

PS. Mine does show "(Now Playing 1 of 256)" but it works fine. (not sure when that even appeared, I am so used to it now).

JimInPT
2009-07-15, 23:16
Mine does show "(Now Playing 1 of 256)"


So far, my high score is "1 of 4096" - what the hell is that all about?

Thanks for the feedback; good to know I'm not alone, although I am on firmware 47. Is it possible to downgrade then upgrade? I think mine's set up for auto-updating, but it's been so long since I fiddled with setup I'm not sure.

It's really starting to bug me; dropped a bunch today, seems to be worse on some stations, in particular KFI out of Los Angeles.

I used to be so happy with my Boom, now I'm just sort of fine with it until this gets fixed.

BastiaanR
2009-07-16, 01:45
Does the connection problem just occur when the Boom is wireless? What happens if you connect the Boom with network cable?

JimInPT
2009-07-16, 09:24
Does the connection problem just occur when the Boom is wireless? What happens if you connect the Boom with network cable?

I don't know; the Boom is on an upstairs floor in the bedroom, the router downstairs, so it's never been connected wired. Signal strength (with the repeater) is currently 95-100%, it was in the mid-60s before the repeater was installed and used to work fine at that lower signal level. Repeater was installed to improve the notebook computer bandwidth.

The SB3 downstairs is just a few feet from the router but is also wireless with a signal strength of about 40% (because there's a plasma TV in between them) and it doesn't seem to exhibit this problem. It drops out once in a while but pretty infrequently.

The Boom keeps dropping with usually an error message of "can't connect to SqueezeNetwork" then goes to the "Now Playing" label with "Stopped (1 of 256)" or some other number up to 4096 in the top display line.

I have not seen it drop out when streaming my CDs via SqueezeCenter.

JimInPT
2009-07-16, 10:38
Update: I just had my SB3 drop twice in the last half hour in a similar manner to the Boom.

It seems to be quite frequent when connected to KFI in Los Angeles via SqueezeNetwork, but I don't think it's the stream itself - I use my browser to point to the same stream on my PC and it doesn't drop off.

Testing with KFI might be a good way to debug the problem, if one exists in the Squeezebox firmware or SqueezeNetwork.

Here's the URL stored in my Favorites:

http://opml.radiotime.com/StationPlaylist.axd?stationId=32618&username=sampletime

dgos
2009-07-16, 13:28
More of an elaborate update from me.

Mine has always worked "flawlessly" streaming files off my pc (squeezecenter) wirelessly. (which is why eliminated wireless connectivity since I assumed I would have seen it with squeezecenter. Think my strength is something like 90% as I my boom is directly above the AP)

As I mentioned in my previous post, a couple months ago I noticed issues with streams stopping frequently (various stations that I never had lots of issues with before) and I also had the issues mentioned where the Boom response would get very sluggish to commands. For example I would hit the volume button a few times and think nothing was happening then seconds later the sound level would zoom up, leaving my frantically trying to turn it back down.

Things seem to be working "normally" now since the upgrade to version 47. I have it streaming internet radio for several hours straight and it only stops when I shut the Boom off.


PS. My thought on downgrading/upgrading. Get an older version of squeezecenter (not sure where) and load that up. Have the boom connect to it and it would downgrade your firmware. Not sure if that is going to help though, but it might be worth a shot.

JimInPT
2009-07-16, 15:16
I also had the issues mentioned where the Boom response would get very sluggish to commands. For example I would hit the volume button a few times and think nothing was happening then seconds later the sound level would zoom up, leaving my frantically trying to turn it back down.


Yep, that's just what I'm seeing too in addition to dropping the stream.

Thanks for the downgrading tip; I always archive installer versions of software for just that reason - interesting to know it'll downgrade the firmware to match the software.

I'll give it a try in the next day or so when I get time to set it up.

jo-wie
2009-07-17, 01:11
I guess there is a misunderstanding about how WLAN repeater do operate. They do not boost the antenna signal by simply amplifying it! This units are connected to the main WLAN Access Point as the other clients and do allow to connect clients to them.

Please have a look at the signal quality of the WLAN repeater because this unit do establish the connection for your Squeezebox and PC to your main access point. WLAN repeater do significantly reduce the WLAN bandwide, the maximun throughput is halved:

(Client system <-> WLAN Repeater <-> WLAN access point) = same shared network = only one system can send data at the same time

Foster
2009-07-17, 12:16
A very interesting thread. I have been having much the same problems recently. Until now I had thought my problem was with the service provider who has been doing some maintenance or upgrades to the service.

Same pattern. Dropped signal, reverts to a message about cannot connect, then switches to Now Playing.

Everything had been working so I will need to investigate whether I'm using FW 46 or 47 and other variables under discussion here. Most of my use is over night, and I have thought the problem resolves after about 7:00 am, thus my connection to the ISP maintenance schedule thinking they were doing users a favour. I don't get much chance to check during the day, but this shouldn't make any difference if it is not my ISP.

I haven't noticed any difference between stations.

Foster

JimInPT
2009-07-17, 12:30
Thanks for your input, jo-wie. I do understand the repeater's operation in basic terms but didn't want to belabor that point in the thread - total bandwidth is reduced because the repeater is accepting/retransmitting the signal. But at G-spec levels, even then the available bandwidth should be much greater than I'm demanding for my applications.

Signal strength is excellent both into and out of the repeater, and both CD streaming performance and notebook use (email, websites etc.) is excellent as well - no dropouts with either.

So unless the repeater is somehow confusing the Squeezebox, I don't think it's my wireless network setup. With others reporting similar problems without a repeater, I don't think it's an issue.

I'm glad (if that's the right word) to see others reporting the same symptoms as me with recent firmware; that seems to point to something other than my unique situation being the cause.

So I'm hoping someone from Logitech/Slim Devices will drop by and perhaps offer more insight into this issue.




I guess there is a misunderstanding about how WLAN repeater do operate. They do not boost the antenna signal by simply amplifying it! This units are connected to the main WLAN Access Point as the other clients and do allow to connect clients to them.

Please have a look at the signal quality of the WLAN repeater because this unit do establish the connection for your Squeezebox and PC to your main access point. WLAN repeater do significantly reduce the WLAN bandwide, the maximun throughput is halved:

(Client system <-> WLAN Repeater <-> WLAN access point) = same shared network = only one system can send data at the same time

Dermaplex
2009-07-17, 14:10
A very interesting thread. I have been having much the same problems recently. Until now I had thought my problem was with the service provider who has been doing some maintenance or upgrades to the service.

Same pattern. Dropped signal, reverts to a message about cannot connect, then switches to Now Playing.

Everything had been working so I will need to investigate whether I'm using FW 46 or 47 and other variables under discussion here. Most of my use is over night, and I have thought the problem resolves after about 7:00 am, thus my connection to the ISP maintenance schedule thinking they were doing users a favour. I don't get much chance to check during the day, but this shouldn't make any difference if it is not my ISP.

I haven't noticed any difference between stations.

Foster

I have also drops from time to time, and it seems that the SqueezeboxBoom tends to take more time to buffer network packets than before.

Also : I usually get up with the clock, and the Boom does not shutdown automatically.

Seems indeed that I have the same issue as it seems that playlist is not empty.

I don't think it is a repeater issue, as many of us seems to have this...

Has something changed in 7.3.3 on the way the Boom connects to Squeezenetwork?

Dx.

JimInPT
2009-07-17, 14:10
Testing notes update: I just installed SqueezeCenter 7.3-24241 from back in December - it proceeded along fine and is now running SqueezeNetwork with KFI, one of the problem internet stations that keeps getting dropped.

In the process, firmware in my Boom was downgraded from 47 to 40; that's a pretty good rollback but I know I wasn't having issues with SN back then.

I also have SC 7.3.2 from March in my archives; if the Dec release is ok I may try that one too to see if it's stable.

Will report back in a day or so to let you know what happens; appreciate the insights and reports of other owners.

tcutting
2009-07-17, 15:37
JimInPT-
Have you tried using solely Squeezecenter (not using Squeezenetwork)? I see you setup a fitPC server.

JimInPT
2009-07-18, 00:36
JimInPT-
Have you tried using solely Squeezecenter (not using Squeezenetwork)? I see you setup a fitPC server.


I've done that with CD music streaming from the FitPC; it works fine. Have only tested Internet Radio briefly via SC; I've been using SN for that - although I don't know the pluses/minuses of one or the other for radio stations; it's a bit confusing to me having the two sources overlap so much, or even that there are two sources that have to be selected back and forth.

By the way, the FitPC2 makes a fantastic CD server. I don't plan to use it to serve movies (have no interest in that), but have heard it's pretty good for that, although a little underpowered for high-definition A/V content. Otherwise, it's the perfect little box for me; tiny and very low power consumption so I can leave it on 24/7 - exactly my goal in setting up the HDPC.

JimInPT
2009-07-18, 00:41
Success!

After installing/downgrading SqueezeCenter 7.3-24241 (and thus Boom firmware v40) earlier today, I started it playing KFI radio via SqueezeNetwork.

That was just over 10 hours ago as of this posting, and it's been running perfectly the entire time! Cool beans. No drop, no stop, no "1 of 512" nonsense in the display, just "Now Playing".

So, the problem for me was either SC or the firmware, but probably the firmware since I was having problems with SqueezeNetwork operation. I don't know if 7.3.2 (the next newest version I have archived) will also work, or even if reinstalling 7.3.3 will work, but I may try experimenting with those if I have time.

I'm just so happy to have it stable again that I'm reluctant to fiddle with it right now.

Will report back if anything changes, or after a lengthier test.

toby10
2009-07-18, 02:53
I've done that with CD music streaming from the FitPC; it works fine. Have only tested Internet Radio briefly via SC; I've been using SN for that - although I don't know the pluses/minuses of one or the other for radio stations; it's a bit confusing to me having the two sources overlap so much, or even that there are two sources that have to be selected back and forth......

SC7 advantages over SN for Internet Radio and Music Services usage:
+ SC can use Music Information Screen
+ SC offers immediate access to your local music library
+ SC includes Favorites folders and sub-folders for station favorites, all editable and movable (SN has no folders)
+ SC has Direct station search feature (not available on SN)
+ SC has much more screen configuration customizing
+ SC has a larger UI
+ SC has RadioTime presets (not available on SN)
+ SC has a better menu layout for Internet Radio
+ SC has logging for stream error diagnosis (SN has no logging)
+ SC has better player sync (SN can have lag and limited sync options, SN can’t sync certain subscription services)
+ SC has Direct tune in URL (SN requires this be done by creating and saving as a Favorite before tuning)
+ no FW update conflicts switching between SC and SN
+ SC allows for third party plugins (not available on SN)

Obviously SN's big advantage over SC is not needing your computer turned on (or even needing a computer at all).

JimInPT
2009-07-18, 11:35
SC7 advantages over SN for Internet Radio and Music Services usage:

< snip >

Obviously SN's big advantage over SC is not needing your computer turned on (or even needing a computer at all).


Wow, thanks Toby - that's a great summation. I need to spend more time with SC now that I have a full-time network server set up with it. I had gravitated to SN simply because my previous use of SC was so limited, occasionally playing CDs when my networked desktop happened to be turned on.

Dermaplex
2009-07-21, 12:02
Testing notes update: I just installed SqueezeCenter 7.3-24241 from back in December - it proceeded along fine and is now running SqueezeNetwork with KFI, one of the problem internet stations that keeps getting dropped.

In the process, firmware in my Boom was downgraded from 47 to 40; that's a pretty good rollback but I know I wasn't having issues with SN back then.

I also have SC 7.3.2 from March in my archives; if the Dec release is ok I may try that one too to see if it's stable.

Will report back in a day or so to let you know what happens; appreciate the insights and reports of other owners.

Hope that Logitech will find a solution, as downgrading is not really a good alternative for me...

Perhaps should we open a case for support?

JimInPT
2009-07-21, 13:12
FYI, I installed the 7.3.2 SC release from March, which upgraded SB firmware back to version 47.

It failed; SN radio streams dropped as before, so for me the older December 7.3-24241 release is the last stable one in my collection. I'm sticking with that one for now and have reinstalled it.

Dermaplex
2009-07-22, 11:37
FYI, I installed the 7.3.2 SC release from March, which upgraded SB firmware back to version 47.

It failed; SN radio streams dropped as before, so for me the older December 7.3-24241 release is the last stable one in my collection. I'm sticking with that one for now and have reinstalled it.

Really a pîty that us, poor users, have to do that......

EngrPaul
2009-07-29, 08:44
I'm using 7.3.4 and have the same issues. SN stops playing and loses connection. I even see disconnected notifications on the screen while the player is off and should be showing the clock.

Dermaplex
2009-07-30, 13:34
I'm using 7.3.4 and have the same issues. SN stops playing and loses connection. I even see disconnected notifications on the screen while the player is off and should be showing the clock.

I have raised a ticket to Logitech support...


It is the first time I use the support, as this issue I have blocks me to use the Boom since I am under 7.3.3 with the same symptoms as the ones described in the forum...

I will post their answer, hopefully it will be interesting...

skrump
2009-08-07, 18:03
Just want to throw a vote in that I'm another Squeezebox Boom user with the exact same problems. If my Boom is in the same room as my router, no problems. Put it outside (20ft away as the crow flies), and I can barely get through 3 songs without the Boom stopping or stopping then restarting a different song. This happens with Internet radio, Pandora, Rhapsody, and local MP3's. I always assumed it was a signal strength issue- There's been plenty of times the unit won't even connect to SC, only SN. I've been considering adding a repeater outside under the eaves... Very interested in this thread, love to hear what you find out from customer support. At this point my Squeezebox is fairly useless- if it only works in the same room as my PC, why am I using it, and not just the speakers attached to my PC?

Mnyb
2009-08-08, 02:19
Just want to throw a vote in that I'm another Squeezebox Boom user with the exact same problems. If my Boom is in the same room as my router, no problems. Put it outside (20ft away as the crow flies), and I can barely get through 3 songs without the Boom stopping or stopping then restarting a different song. This happens with Internet radio, Pandora, Rhapsody, and local MP3's. I always assumed it was a signal strength issue- There's been plenty of times the unit won't even connect to SC, only SN. I've been considering adding a repeater outside under the eaves... Very interested in this thread, love to hear what you find out from customer support. At this point my Squeezebox is fairly useless- if it only works in the same room as my PC, why am I using it, and not just the speakers attached to my PC?

Could be other things to ?
Interference, download an application called netstumbler it can find all networks in neighborhood check to see if you can switch wireless channel best choice would be 5 channels away from any one else ch1, 6 or 11 are popular choices.

Have you any 11b product's most routers can work in an combined b & g mode.
turn that of set the router to 11g only. b products slows down the rest of the wifi communication.
Is there any fancy vendor specific "turbo" modes in the router, my old netgear had an special mode that enhanced the 54kps network to 104, but it only worked with other netgear products, off it goes.

Is the server computer also wireless ? wire that one. as you know you can reach the web-UI fro all other pc's on your network anyway. So no need to run SC on a laptop you carry along. Having the server wireless is fragile is it doubles the needed bandwidth for music and that computer might use its bandwidth for other things to.

Antenna orientation and router placement, place the router free on high place, not inside a cupboard, experiment with different angles of the antenna.
Wifi works best when the products are in line of sight with each other no walls and heavy furniture.

What is the network strength ? if you are using squeezecenter you can check it on the settings page under information.
And SqueezeCenter have a network test function where you test the player at different speeds.
This can also be invoked on the boom itself home > settings > information > network test turn the wheel to test different bit rates

toby10
2009-08-08, 02:59
....... Put it outside (20ft away as the crow flies), and I can barely get through 3 songs without the Boom stopping or stopping then restarting a different song. This happens with Internet radio, Pandora, Rhapsody, and local MP3's. I always assumed it was a signal strength issue- ....

There's been plenty of times the unit won't even connect to SC, only SN......

The fact that you cannot connect to SC on your computer is very telling, something is wacky with your network. My Boom is about 40 feet from the router and it's WiFi signal must go through 3 walls, never misses a beat even when streaming full WAV's. Boom gets a 76% signal from a stock Linksys WRTWRT54g with stock FW.

Call support, reset (unplug/reboot) your entire network, do a network analysis as Mnyb suggested.

Dermaplex
2009-08-10, 02:45
The fact that you cannot connect to SC on your computer is very telling, something is wacky with your network. My Boom is about 40 feet from the router and it's WiFi signal must go through 3 walls, never misses a beat even when streaming full WAV's. Boom gets a 76% signal from a stock Linksys WRTWRT54g with stock FW.

Call support, reset (unplug/reboot) your entire network, do a network analysis as Mnyb suggested.

I had the same issue (buffering issues, not possible to connect to Sn, etc...), I totally reset my router (factory settings), and now, it works....

In my case,it was really a network issue related to my wireless router.

Dx.

zet
2009-08-12, 06:10
Does this mean the problem ticket with Logitech is closed?

I have the same issue, cannot play internet radio: poznan4-1.radio.pionier.net.pl:8000/pl/radiokrakow.ogg[
no matter what, tried via SC and SN on my Boom, drops after a 1-2min
seems related to wireless buffering?
Any suggestion would be helpful

p

toby10
2009-08-12, 10:27
Does this mean the problem ticket with Logitech is closed?

I have the same issue, cannot play internet radio: poznan4-1.radio.pionier.net.pl:8000/pl/radiokrakow.ogg[
no matter what, tried via SC and SN on my Boom, drops after a 1-2min
seems related to wireless buffering?
Any suggestion would be helpful

p

That stream won't play at all for me, won't even load.
Do all radio streams not play? Or just that one?

Siduhe
2009-08-12, 10:50
Have you tried: http://wroclaw1-3.radio.pionier.net.pl:8000/pl/radiokrakow.ogg

I think it is the right station and it works fine for me in Squeezecenter? Ah, but not so successfully in Squeezenetwork...I think it must be to do with the SN setup if it works if you are connected to Squeezecenter.

Edited to say, that's very odd - I had it working a minute ago, and now it refuses to play at all.

zet
2009-08-13, 04:30
Wow. many thanks for nice and researched replies.

ok. I do connect to Squeezenetwork as I use my Boom for bedtime/wakeup so prefer not to have my pc/laptop on all night/all nights. I have also played a little with Squeezecenter/Boom but not recently - all fine. I love my Boom and am planning getting another one (actually missed out on a few eBay bids -:( for my kitchen, this one would be connecting to my digital collection via Squeezecenter.

Re testing, if my wireless laptop/mediamonkey plays ok so should the Wireless Boom, I have also played a bit with Squeezecenter/SoftSqueeze connected directly to my main audio system, amazing and very cool as I can control all via my iPhone, the sound though seemed a bit odd, MediaMonkey sounds better - I have not done enough testing with different demanding sounds though.

For morning wakeup you would expect some reliability as for now my wife is still using noisy alarm clock for backup -

I like to wake up to exotic radio tune, so am reasonably lucky with:
http://stream.nadaje.com:8056
BUT often I get connect/buffering ... /off no sound
sometimes it actually shows Now Playing and displays the correct station but no sound ...
Sometimes, it starts playing for 3-5 sec, stops and gives this funny and loud beeping sound, beep sequence, HIGH/MID/LOW/HIGH/MID/LOW... no idea where that comes from --

With the the link I posted before (sorry was not allowed to post proper link on this forum as a new member) I had no luck at all BUT with the same station on a pretty pathetic bit rate seems fine:
http://poznan4-1.radio.pionier.net.pl:8000/pl/radiokrakow2.ogg
Radio Kraków (feed 90 kbps, 32 kHz, stereo) from Poznan
seems the same as the one I posted before:
http://poznan4-1.radio.pionier.net.pl:8000/pl/radiokrakow.ogg

and the low bit rate plays ok so far
http://poznan4-1.radio.pionier.net.pl:8000/pl/radiokrakow3.ogg
Radio Kraków (feed 20 kbps, 22 kHz, mono) from Poznan

Now, I am convinced this is a very cool box and top DAC with amazing sound so am keen to get another one but would love to resolve some of the issues.

ps. I will try this link as well ... in the morning
http://wroclaw1-3.radio.pionier.net....adiokrakow.ogg

Many thanks

p

Dermaplex
2009-08-24, 13:46
Does this mean the problem ticket with Logitech is closed?

I have the same issue, cannot play internet radio: poznan4-1.radio.pionier.net.pl:8000/pl/radiokrakow.ogg[
no matter what, tried via SC and SN on my Boom, drops after a 1-2min
seems related to wireless buffering?
Any suggestion would be helpful

p

Yes it is....

Dermaplex
2009-08-24, 13:49
Wow. many thanks for nice and researched replies.

ok. I do connect to Squeezenetwork as I use my Boom for bedtime/wakeup so prefer not to have my pc/laptop on all night/all nights. I have also played a little with Squeezecenter/Boom but not recently - all fine. I love my Boom and am planning getting another one (actually missed out on a few eBay bids -:( for my kitchen, this one would be connecting to my digital collection via Squeezecenter.

Re testing, if my wireless laptop/mediamonkey plays ok so should the Wireless Boom, I have also played a bit with Squeezecenter/SoftSqueeze connected directly to my main audio system, amazing and very cool as I can control all via my iPhone, the sound though seemed a bit odd, MediaMonkey sounds better - I have not done enough testing with different demanding sounds though.

For morning wakeup you would expect some reliability as for now my wife is still using noisy alarm clock for backup -

I like to wake up to exotic radio tune, so am reasonably lucky with:
http://stream.nadaje.com:8056
BUT often I get connect/buffering ... /off no sound
sometimes it actually shows Now Playing and displays the correct station but no sound ...
Sometimes, it starts playing for 3-5 sec, stops and gives this funny and loud beeping sound, beep sequence, HIGH/MID/LOW/HIGH/MID/LOW... no idea where that comes from --

With the the link I posted before (sorry was not allowed to post proper link on this forum as a new member) I had no luck at all BUT with the same station on a pretty pathetic bit rate seems fine:
http://poznan4-1.radio.pionier.net.pl:8000/pl/radiokrakow2.ogg
Radio Kraków (feed 90 kbps, 32 kHz, stereo) from Poznan
seems the same as the one I posted before:
http://poznan4-1.radio.pionier.net.pl:8000/pl/radiokrakow.ogg

and the low bit rate plays ok so far
http://poznan4-1.radio.pionier.net.pl:8000/pl/radiokrakow3.ogg
Radio Kraków (feed 20 kbps, 22 kHz, mono) from Poznan

Now, I am convinced this is a very cool box and top DAC with amazing sound so am keen to get another one but would love to resolve some of the issues.

ps. I will try this link as well ... in the morning
http://wroclaw1-3.radio.pionier.net....adiokrakow.ogg

Many thanks

p

The first link works immediately here....

skrump
2009-08-26, 18:29
Could be other things to ?
Interference, download an application called netstumbler it can find all networks in neighborhood check to see if you can switch wireless channel best choice would be 5 channels away from any one else ch1, 6 or 11 are popular choices.

Have you any 11b product's most routers can work in an combined b & g mode.
turn that of set the router to 11g only. b products slows down the rest of the wifi communication.
Is there any fancy vendor specific "turbo" modes in the router, my old netgear had an special mode that enhanced the 54kps network to 104, but it only worked with other netgear products, off it goes.

Is the server computer also wireless ? wire that one. as you know you can reach the web-UI fro all other pc's on your network anyway. So no need to run SC on a laptop you carry along. Having the server wireless is fragile is it doubles the needed bandwidth for music and that computer might use its bandwidth for other things to.

Antenna orientation and router placement, place the router free on high place, not inside a cupboard, experiment with different angles of the antenna.
Wifi works best when the products are in line of sight with each other no walls and heavy furniture.

What is the network strength ? if you are using squeezecenter you can check it on the settings page under information.
And SqueezeCenter have a network test function where you test the player at different speeds.
This can also be invoked on the boom itself home > settings > information > network test turn the wheel to test different bit rates


Thanks for all the great suggestions, I'm troubleshooting now... I do agree with the consensus here, I strongly suspect it's a wireless network issue. I'm not very savy with the whole wireless networking thing, learning as I go here.

Server computer is wired. No b devices on the network. The only wireless devices are the squeezebox boom, an additional laptop, and the xbox360's wireless connection.

The network signal strength I'm getting in my backyard (again, roughly 25-30' away) is 36%. Couldn't get netstumbler to work, but from the Windows networking center saw 4 other networks showing from the neighbors nearby. Changed the channel on my router from 11 to 2, and also futzed around a bit with the physical positioning of the router...
Rechecked signal strength on the Boom in the backyard...Those couple of tweaks boosted up the network signal strength to 51%. Next tried channel 5. Signal strength- 58% Not bad! I'm going to let the player roll for awhile and wait for any hiccups- fingers are crossed!!

toby10
2009-08-27, 03:29
......... from the Windows networking center saw 4 other networks showing from the neighbors nearby.....

Did that give you what ch's those other networks were using? If so, which of those other networks is the strongest signal and which ch is that network using?

Minor, simple tweaks (change ch's & router orientation) can give great results for many applications. :)