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PAUL WILLIAMSON
2004-06-04, 06:42
Let's tackle these (from my viewpoint) one at a time...

>>> thnmnt (AT) hotmail (DOT) com 06/04/04 09:31AM >>>
>thanks for everyone's help - i've still can't get the slimserver
>running when i log in as myself - only root, but then it seems
>to work ok. is there something i need to change about my
>personal permissions? or about the permissions of the 'user'
>slimserver?

You need to figure out what the permissions and owner situation
for slimserver and all the directories associated with it are.
They either need to be owned by slimserver user or at least
in the group (and have the app be executable by the same
group. Root makes sense because it can run everything. Not
a good idea as this can cause other bad things to happen.

>i've tried starting slimserver (as root and as my own login)
>with --d_info --d_source and --d_stdin in all combinations
>but i never get any output it either just starts (as root) or
>just hangs (as myself)

No switch will tell you if you are having a permissions problem.
From what you describe, you definitely are having a permissions
problem.

>also, i've got all my mp3's on a snap server on my network.
>i can't seem to get slimserver to find this - do i type in a URL ?
>that doesn't seem to work...and...as if my noobiness knows no
>bounds...i do all my ripping and moodlogic-ing on another
>machine (winxp) how do i let my new linux machine know about
>moodlogic on my winxp box?

2 issues: snap server and moodlogic.

Snap server - is your linux box able to see the snap server? Is it
able to nfs mount the drive, preferably through automount is the
/etc/fstab file? If not, slim never will see it.

Moodlogic - the only way you have moodlogic support is unfortunately
if you run slimserver on a windows machine. The folks at moodlogic
don't feel that us paying customers running slim on linux warrant the
development effort to put moodlogic on linux. Send e-mails to
moodlogic and let them know linux deserves moodlogic as well. I
don't think the tradeoff of running slim on windows with moodlogic
vs. linux without moodlogic is worth it, but I guess that's because
I use moodlogic mostly on my Archos. If my wife started using
moodlogic at home, I'd be writing to moodlogic every day complaining
to the to get a linux version.

HTH,

Paul

Pbox
2004-06-04, 09:39
PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:
> Let's tackle these (from my viewpoint) one at a time...
>
>>>>thnmnt (AT) hotmail (DOT) com 06/04/04 09:31AM >>>
>>
>>thanks for everyone's help - i've still can't get the slimserver
>>running when i log in as myself - only root, but then it seems
>>to work ok. is there something i need to change about my
>>personal permissions? or about the permissions of the 'user'
>>slimserver?
>
> You need to figure out what the permissions and owner situation
> for slimserver and all the directories associated with it are.
> They either need to be owned by slimserver user or at least
> in the group (and have the app be executable by the same
> group. Root makes sense because it can run everything. Not
> a good idea as this can cause other bad things to happen.

It would be a nice and welcome addition to the installation document,
which would describe how to create a group and user for the slimserver.
How to untar/unzip it. And which part of the installation needs to be
done as root. Something for the noobies to start, so we can just respond
RTFM here in the list.

>>i've tried starting slimserver (as root and as my own login)
>>with --d_info --d_source and --d_stdin in all combinations
>>but i never get any output it either just starts (as root) or
>>just hangs (as myself)
>
> No switch will tell you if you are having a permissions problem.
>>From what you describe, you definitely are having a permissions
> problem.
>
>>also, i've got all my mp3's on a snap server on my network.
>>i can't seem to get slimserver to find this - do i type in a URL ?
>>that doesn't seem to work...and...as if my noobiness knows no
>>bounds...i do all my ripping and moodlogic-ing on another
>>machine (winxp) how do i let my new linux machine know about
>>moodlogic on my winxp box?
>
> 2 issues: snap server and moodlogic.
>
> Snap server - is your linux box able to see the snap server? Is it
> able to nfs mount the drive, preferably through automount is the
> /etc/fstab file? If not, slim never will see it.

Other solution, is to share out the directory on the winxp box which
contains all your mp3s. On the linux box you can install samba, which
will let you mount the network shared directory. Note there are
drawbacks with this situation, as it would be almost mandatory to put a
firewall between the winxp box with the share and the internet. Also a
problem, that both your linux server and winxp box need to be on for
slim server to work. Network contention can cause server hangups as
well, so this solution is far from optimal.

I'd rather have you move all of your music to linux, and install samba
and share out the directory from there. When you winxp box is on you can
map the share to a disc letter, and be happy.

> Moodlogic - the only way you have moodlogic support is unfortunately
> if you run slimserver on a windows machine. The folks at moodlogic
> don't feel that us paying customers running slim on linux warrant the
> development effort to put moodlogic on linux. Send e-mails to
> moodlogic and let them know linux deserves moodlogic as well. I
> don't think the tradeoff of running slim on windows with moodlogic
> vs. linux without moodlogic is worth it, but I guess that's because
> I use moodlogic mostly on my Archos. If my wife started using
> moodlogic at home, I'd be writing to moodlogic every day complaining
> to the to get a linux version.

If you go with the slim server/file server solution you will be able to
use moodlogic on winxp, to update the files which happen to be located
on the linux box.

Unrelated: IMHO, Moodlogic qualifies as "bad" software as it is closed
source, and heavily licensed and expensive. Plus most of the time it
does not even work well, this audio fingerprinting is still in baby
shoes, and does not work as well as it supposed to...

--pbox