Doesn't like album name starting with ...?

[Tejay]

I have an album from Sting called ...nothing like the sun.
When I did a rescan, all my 'new' added albums were found. But not this one.

Does SC has a have some taste, or does it don't like dots at the beginning of an album?

I looked for numbers on this album (Englishman in New York, Fragile): nothing is found.

I use the official SC 7.3.

[Richie]

It doesn't have any trouble with Metallica's ...And Justice For All so I don't think it has problem with dots in general. I am using the latest 7.3.1 nightly rather than the 7.3 official release though. Have you checked the tags are correct?

Richard

[Tejay]

Yes it does has the tag correct.
I copied the album name from MP3tag v2.42:
...Nothing Like the Sun

Strange, I find, that not one number from the album is anywhere in SC to be found.

Anyway it works for you. When I add more new albums I will look into this again, and maybe I install the latest beta if that, rescan, doesn't work.

When I see that this is working again, I'll let the forum know!
Thanks Richard.

Theo

[mherger]

> Yes it does has the tag correct.
> I copied the album name from MP3tag v2.42:
> ...Nothing Like the Sun

Are you using this as the folder name too? This might be a problem, as
some systems consider "dot files" (files and folders with a leading dot) a
hidden file.

Michael

[Siduhe]

Tejay, are you running on Linux or some flavour thereof? And does your file name or folder have the "..." in?

I seem to recall that Linux in particular has an issue with leading ... - however I can' find the thread that I read this in. It may be only an issue with the file name - rather than the tags themselves.

[Tejay]

Tejay, are you running on Linux or some flavour thereof? And does your file name or folder have the "..." in?

I seem to recall that Linux in particular has an issue with leading ... - however I can' find the thread that I read this in. It may be only an issue with the file name - rather than the tags themselves.

Yes!
I use the Perl version on my QNAP-server (a NAS).
And yes, the name of the folder is also: ...Nothing like the sun.

What are you saying?
SC (Perl / Unix) doesn't like the dots in the folder name?

(I am familiar with Windows and not with Unix. My main machine is working with Windows and from there I download the 'new' albums to QNAP via my network.)

Theo

[Tejay]

> Yes it does has the tag correct.
> I copied the album name from MP3tag v2.42:
> ...Nothing Like the Sun

Are you using this as the folder name too? This might be a problem, as
some systems consider "dot files" (files and folders with a leading dot) a
hidden file.

Michael

Never mind Siduhe!

Yes Michael, I do. I will rename it, and do a rescan.
As I said I have no knowledge about Unix.

Theo

[MeSue]

I have the albums " ...Famous Last Words..." and "...Something to Be" and SC does not have a problem with them. However, my directory rule puts the year in front of the album name, so the folders do not begin with "..."

Another thing to look into: Are you using 3 periods (...), or the actual ellipses character (…)? Maybe try switching one for the other and see what happens? (Hold alt while typing 0133 on the numeric keypad to type an ellipses character in Windows.)

Also worth noting, Squeezecenter will sort album lists by the first alphabet letter of the title, ignoring any leading punctuation.

[Tejay]

I have the albums " ...Famous Last Words..." and "...Something to Be" and SC does not have a problem with them. However, my directory rule puts the year in front of the album name, so the folders do not begin with "..."

Another thing to look into: Are you using 3 periods (...), or the actual ellipses character (…)? Maybe try switching one for the other and see what happens? (Hold alt while typing 0133 on the numeric keypad to type an ellipses character in Windows.)

Also worth noting, Squeezecenter will sort album lists by the first alphabet letter of the title, ignoring any leading punctuation.

Hello MeSue,

Those where three dots, and no ellipses.
I don't mind if the folder not starts with those dots, it's just a folder... I just renamed the folder, and there are now no dots at the start.
However if I see that SC still ignores my album, I will try the ellipses.

Thanks for this!

Theo

[Moonbase]

The ellipsis character »…« should normally work. Some systems have problems with leading as well with trailing dots.

If using Mp3tag, you might want to use a so-called »formatting string« when renaming/moving the files, like maybe

M:\Music\$validate(%artist%,_)\$validate(%album%,_ )\$validate($num(%track%,2) %title%,_)
on Windows. The above would generate (examples):

M:\Music\Metallica\_..and Justice for All\04 One.flac
M:\Music\R.E.M_\In Time_ The Best of R.E.M. 1988-2003\06 Losing My Religion.flac
M:\Music\Ivo Robič\Schlager der 60er\Mit 17 fängt das Leben erst an.mp3
M:\Music\о.Иоанн (Крестьянкин)\โป้-โยคีเพลย์บอย\03 Victory.mp3
thus even keeping Unicode compatibility (if supported in tag and filesystem). (The last one is a made-up example. Watch the replacement of the first dot in the Metallica album, the last dot in »R.E.M.«, and the replacement of the colon in »In Time: The Best of R.E.M.«.)

If you still get problems with »odd foreign characters« on non-Unicode filesystems, you can use a combination of $validate() and $ansi() like this:

$ansi(M:\Music\$validate(%artist%,_)\$validate(%al bum%,_)\$validate($num(%track%,2) %title%,_))
This would generate:

M:\Music\Metallica\_..and Justice for All\04 One.flac
M:\Music\R.E.M_\In Time_ The Best of R.E.M. 1988-2003\06 Losing My Religion.flac
M:\Music\Ivo Robic\Schlager der 60er\Mit 17 fängt das Leben erst an.mp3
M:\Music\_._____ (___________)\__-__________\03 Victory.mp3
(All non-ANSI characters have been replaced. Watch the »č« in »Robič« and the replacement of Russian and Thai.)

Foobar2000 can do likewise.

[Tejay]

After I removed the trailing dots in the folder name, I did a rescan.
And, oh wonder, the album is in the list!

Thanks everyone for the replies. And Moonbase: I will look into the solution you gave me for MP3tag, thanks.

Theo