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[jmschnur]

I set the controller as the player and plugged in earphones. I enabled playback.
sound came from the controller but not through the earphones. Is this a software issue or my earphone cable or//


I just got this note from support. All of you that are experiencing this problem might also want be cc's on progress.


'We have an open bug with our Development Team, which is currently being worked on.

I'll call your attention to the open bug on this issue:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10321

Please watch this bug. I encourage you to add yourself to the CC list,
so you will get updates as our Engineering team works toward a solution.

There's nothing more Support can do at this stage, which is why it's
very important that you direct any comments or questions to the bug
entry's page at the above URL."






'



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joel

[Howard Passman]

I set the controller as the player and plugged in earphones. I enabled playback.
sound came from the controller but not through the earphones. Is this a software issue or my earphone cable or//

Thanks for any suggestions.
joel
Seems some folks have a problem with it and I've asked what type of buds, etc. they might be using, but no one comes back and says.

Try another set of headphones or earbuds. I'm starting to feel the one for iPod don't work. I use Shure earbuds and Sennhieser HD650 headphones and all work fine.

Of course all of this assumes you're using the newest SBC firmware.

Good luck,

Howard

[Thg6276]

I am using also a Sennheiser HD650 but no sound for me.

Using / Version : 7.3 - 24282 @ Thu Dec 11 14:38:17 PST 2008
SBC Version 7.3 r3476

[Howard Passman]

I am using also a Sennheiser HD650 but no sound for me.

Using / Version : 7.3 - 24282 @ Thu Dec 11 14:38:17 PST 2008
SBC Version 7.3 r3476


Should be working fine. There is a way to ssh in to the SBC and turn off the speaker, but I'm not sure that would help.

Anyone else have any ideas??

Howard

[coffeetime]

I set the controller as the player and plugged in earphones. I enabled playback.

Hmm..how and where did you enable it to work as a player?

[Howard Passman]

Hmm..how and where did you enable it to work as a player?

First you need to be running SC 7.3 and one of the related SBC firmware updates. Then on your SBC you go to Settings/Adavanced/Audio Playback and enable beta playback.

Howard

[suiciety]

I found the connection pretty tight and had to really push the connector in until it was flush with the controller.

After that the sound came through the headphones. This is an awesome feature and I hope they manage to sort out the quirks!

[coffeetime]

First you need to be running SC 7.3 and one of the related SBC firmware updates. Then on your SBC you go to Settings/Adavanced/Audio Playback and enable beta playback.

Howard

Thank you Howard. But as the OP said, the sound is coming only from the controller and not from the headphones.

[Thg6276]

OK for me. Thank you Howard

[coffeetime]

Ouu...I've changed my headphones, set everything as it should be and I'm impressed again. Everything works like a charm. Sound is great! Wonderful.
My headphones->Aiwa HP-CN6.

[Howard Passman]

Ouu...I've changed my headphones, set everything as it should be and I'm impressed again. Everything works like a charm. Sound is great! Wonderful.
My headphones->Aiwa HP-CN6.

But be aware that not all music sources work with the SBC yet because the firmware for the SBC is still in beta. You can't get Rhapsody (but then again Rhapsody isn't working that well anyway) and a few other things. Pandora works like a charm and most Internet stations do. Of course your files should work fine.

It sounds great with headphones and you can run it through a set of powered speakers and be happy, but it may not be great through a higher quality two channel set up. I really need to test it again, but a while back when they first got it working, it didn't sound as good as other other SB's

Have a great weekend,

Howard

[coffeetime]

...and most Internet stations do. Of course your files should work fine.

Yes, my files do really work fine, but I have problems with listening internet stations. I don't use Pandora, cause it doesn't work in Europe. So, is it possible to listen for example DI.FM? I'm playing with the settings right now, but until now, I didn't manage to make it work.

[Howard Passman]

Yes, my files do really work fine, but I have problems with listening internet stations. I don't use Pandora, cause it doesn't work in Europe. So, is it possible to listen for example DI.FM? I'm playing with the settings right now, but until now, I didn't manage to make it work.

I'm not sure because, well heck, I don't even know what it is. Sometimes the radio stations are a little quirky. Do you know anything about Deezer? It's a new plug-in on 7.3 for you folks over in Europe. It's supposed to be on demand songs for free. You might check it out in your Settings/plugins. You may also want to ask your question in the SqueezeCenter forum. I'm sure someone there knows the answer.

Howard

[coffeetime]

Yaba daba du...well, it works! I forgot to choose Player. This is getting better and better.


Do you know anything about Deezer? It's a new plug-in on 7.3 for you folks over in Europe. It's supposed to be on demand songs for free.

Yes, I saw this new servis. It's nice and it works too.

[Howard Passman]

Yes, my files do really work fine, but I have problems with listening internet stations. I don't use Pandora, cause it doesn't work in Europe. So, is it possible to listen for example DI.FM? I'm playing with the settings right now, but until now, I didn't manage to make it work.

I found DiFM and it does work on the SBC :-)

Howard

[coffeetime]

Well, all the internet radio stations are working fine (including DI.FM).

[dponeill]

I'm just getting playback out of the Controller speaker too. I tried it with 3 different headsets, Sennheiser HD-580, PX-100, and CX-300. I also tried a 1/4" to 1/8" adapter with the HD580 to see if it might be the connector. I believe I read in the release notes that plugging in the headphones should automatically change the player to the Controller, but that does not happen either. This was something I was really looking forward to so I'm disappointed that it does not work.

[allendk123]

And again here. Sound out of the in-built speaker but not out of plugged in headphones. Have tried some earbuds that came with a Sony discman and Sennheiser HD201s. Apart from some crackling when the plug is inserted, I hear nothing from the headphone out. Does this mean there is a hardware fault with the controller?

[coffeetime]

I just founded out, that my Plantronics Pulsar BT (http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/pulsar590a) headphones are working too. Very nice.


Apart from some crackling when the plug is inserted, I hear nothing from the headphone out. Does this mean there is a hardware fault with the controller?

I don't think it's faulty. Well, what I do is:
-Setting/Advanced/Audio Playback [enable]
-Choose Player/Controller/connect to server
-Server/Change player to your controller [for example-Living Room-your controllers name]

So, you can:
-simultaneously listen on your headphones radio stations/music files and on your amplifier other [different] radio stations. This is very good option, because when my wife listens her music with headphones, I can still enjoy listening my music on the amplifier.
-just listen on your headphones

As you wish.

What I discovered is, that when playing music on my controller, data is not sent to Last.FM. But, this function is still in beta,so...

[schiegl]

And again here. Sound out of the in-built speaker but not out of plugged in headphones. Have tried some earbuds that came with a Sony discman and Sennheiser HD201s. Apart from some crackling when the plug is inserted, I hear nothing from the headphone out. Does this mean there is a hardware fault with the controller?

Hi,

someone from the german forum had the same problem (playback through the builtin speaker and nothing from the headphone port) and it was "solved" after he has rebooted the SBC once - after applying all required settings, i.e audio-playback enabled.

kind regards,
Markus

[Drongo]

The controller player seems to work OK. However, as there are no tone controls the sound is a little bland and tinny. I know its only in beta at the moment so can I kindly suggest that some sort of software tone control is added for the controller player as development progresses. If it gets this then its the best gadget out there.

[allendk123]

Hi,

someone from the german forum had the same problem (playback through the builtin speaker and nothing from the headphone port) and it was "solved" after he has rebooted the SBC once - after applying all required settings, i.e audio-playback enabled.

kind regards,
Markus

Thanks Markus. I had tried rebooting the controller to no effect. I did a complete hardware reset of the controller and on enabling audio on the controller, the headphone output now works. Listened on my HD201's and it sounded pretty good! But I then unplugged the headphones and on plugging them back in again, no sound from the headphones (but there is sound from the controller). I tried another controller hardware reset but this time the headphone output refuses to work. There appears to be some sequence you have to follow to get the headphone out working but I have not managed to work it out.

[Howard Passman]

But I then unplugged the headphones and on plugging them back in again, no sound from the headphones (but there is sound from the controller). I tried another controller hardware reset but this time the headphone output refuses to work. There appears to be some sequence you have to follow to get the headphone out working but I have not managed to work it out.


Judging from some other posts, I'm beginning to think there may be an issue with the jack. Mine always works, but isn't quite square in its mounting. I've seen where others have had to plug and unplug them to get them to work. I guess it's also possible that the jacks have some oxidation since they have basically been unused since manufacture.

You may try cleaning the jack to see if that helps.

Howard

[jmschnur]

Hmm..how and where did you enable it to work as a player?
I enabledv it in audio play in the controller.
Joel

[allendk123]

Judging from some other posts, I'm beginning to think there may be an issue with the jack. Mine always works, but isn't quite square in its mounting. I've seen where others have had to plug and unplug them to get them to work. I guess it's also possible that the jacks have some oxidation since they have basically been unused since manufacture.

You may try cleaning the jack to see if that helps.

Howard

Well I tried plugging/unplugging the headphones, twisting the jack when inserted a number of times and it started to work again. It seemed to switch between the inbuilt speaker and headphones when they were plugged in. Problem fixed I thought, but then it failed again after unplugging and plugging the headphones. It is the intermittency that is frustrating me.

[Howard Passman]

Well I tried plugging/unplugging the headphones, twisting the jack when inserted a number of times and it started to work again. It seemed to switch between the inbuilt speaker and headphones when they were plugged in. Problem fixed I thought, but then it failed again after unplugging and plugging the headphones. It is the intermittency that is frustrating me.

Sounds as if I might be on to something. You should call support and see either about a repair or replacement. One thing you could try before calling support is cleaning the jack. There's very little voltage going through one of those jacks so any oxidation at all can cause an issue. Generally with musical instruments it't the ground that oxidizes the worst. If you can find something about the size of the jack you can either use a contact cleaner or even alcohol. I'm thinking the shaft of a q-tip might fit pretty well. Soak it in cleaner or alcohol and gently run it in and out of the jack. Two things you're looking for. One try to really clean the sides of the inside of the jack and second as you go in and out you should feel the connection that contacts the tip of the jack. There are two, but I don't know if you'll be able to actually feel it well enough to tell. Anyway, try and get them clean also. Try not to go any further in than that. You may be able to see some dark stains on the q-tip after cleaning. If you do, it's a good sign that it was fairly dirty.

If this doesn't help it's time to have the jack replaced. Good luck

Howard

[allendk123]

Sounds as if I might be on to something. You should call support and see either about a repair or replacement. One thing you could try before calling support is cleaning the jack. There's very little voltage going through one of those jacks so any oxidation at all can cause an issue. Generally with musical instruments it't the ground that oxidizes the worst. If you can find something about the size of the jack you can either use a contact cleaner or even alcohol. I'm thinking the shaft of a q-tip might fit pretty well. Soak it in cleaner or alcohol and gently run it in and out of the jack. Two things you're looking for. One try to really clean the sides of the inside of the jack and second as you go in and out you should feel the connection that contacts the tip of the jack. There are two, but I don't know if you'll be able to actually feel it well enough to tell. Anyway, try and get them clean also. Try not to go any further in than that. You may be able to see some dark stains on the q-tip after cleaning. If you do, it's a good sign that it was fairly dirty.

If this doesn't help it's time to have the jack replaced. Good luck

Howard

Thanks for the advice Howard. I tried as you suggested, there was no evidence of any dirt being present. The same symptoms as before though. Enable controller audio and select music on the controller. Music being heard through speaker. Insert headphones and music is played through them and the speaker muted. Unplug them and music played through the speaker. Plug headphones in again and music continues to be played through the speaker and not through headphoness. Is anyone else experiencing similar problems?

If it was a hardware failure, I would expect it to fail consistently but I guess that it is time to call support and see what they have to say.

[Howard Passman]

Thanks for the advice Howard. I tried as you suggested, there was no evidence of any dirt being present. The same symptoms as before though. Enable controller audio and select music on the controller. Music being heard through speaker. Insert headphones and music is played through them and the speaker muted. Unplug them and music played through the speaker. Plug headphones in again and music continues to be played through the speaker and not through headphoness. Is anyone else experiencing similar problems?

If it was a hardware failure, I would expect it to fail consistently but I guess that it is time to call support and see what they have to say.

Maybe try one more thing.. A different set of head phones or earbuds. The device for switching the output from speaker to headphones isn't mechanical. It may be based on seeing a certain impedence on the output. We know some earbuds don;t work so maybe try a set of headphones.

Howard

[coffeetime]

This is really interesting; I can use without any kind of problem my Aiwa/Plantronics headphones, but my earbuds (which I got with my iRiver) simply don't work. I have no idea why?

[Howard Passman]

This is really interesting; I can use without any kind of problem my Aiwa/Plantronics headphones, but my earbuds (which I got with my iRiver) simply don't work. I have no idea why?

I think it senses a load on the output and switches off the speaker. Maybe little ear buds don't present enough of a load. Maybe one of the Logitech guys will fill us in.

Howard

[coffeetime]

I think it senses a load on the output and switches off the speaker. Maybe little ear buds don't present enough of a load. Maybe one of the Logitech guys will fill us in.

Howard

Hey Howard!

Darn, I think you could be right. Really hope some of the devs will check it.

[Howard Passman]

Hey Howard!

Darn, I think you could be right. Really hope some of the devs will check it.

See this pdf for the operation of the Wolfson WM8750 DAC. It tells everything you may want to know about the headphone output right in the second paragraph..

http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WAN0177.pdf

Sorry, I couldn't copy the text. BTW, it appears I was wrong and it is triggered by a mechanical switch.

Howard

[jmschnur]

Thanks for the advice Howard. I tried as you suggested, there was no evidence of any dirt being present. The same symptoms as before though. Enable controller audio and select music on the controller. Music being heard through speaker. Insert headphones and music is played through them and the speaker muted. Unplug them and music played through the speaker. Plug headphones in again and music continues to be played through the speaker and not through headphoness. Is anyone else experiencing similar problems?

If it was a hardware failure, I would expect it to fail consistently but I guess that it is time to call support and see what they have to say.

See 1st post for update on support's comments on this issue.



Joel