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Does anybody know if Logitech is selling their goods especially the new Boom at their IFA booth?
If Yes i would go there tomorrow and get one!
Greetz surly
Does anybody know if Logitech is selling their goods especially the new Boom at their IFA booth?
If Yes i would go there tomorrow and get one!
Greetz surly
I think they only take orders. It's a smaller booth and IFA is not really a selling fair.
Dylan Rhodes
2008-08-30, 17:24
I think they only take orders. It's a smaller booth and IFA is not really a selling fair.
For what it's worth, we're not taking orders, either. As you've mentioned, sales to end customers isn't the general focus of the show.
I thought so but it was worth a try!
Is there tech staff to talk with, or will there be only those semi informed good looking persons hanging around?
Greetz surly
Too bad you missed me! I was there yesterday.
However, there is a guy named max at the booth who knows a lot. He's
a real enthusiast. There is a boom there to listen to. Just
remember, your house is much quieter than the IFA floor.
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Too bad you missed me! I was there yesterday.
However, there is a guy named max at the booth who knows a lot. He's
a real enthusiast. There is a boom there to listen to. Just
remember, your house is much quieter than the IFA floor.
Let me be more specific (sorry Caleb): Logitech's booth is in a hall with speaker manufacturers.
If you want to know how booms sounds go to a shop that sells it and listen there. It does sound (and look), well, INNOCENT if around the corner is a 70inch woofer demonstration...
I dropped the idea of going there this time, mainly because I made my mind up anyway (i will buy a Boom) and because I did all my AV purchases last Year (new TV and Mediacenter hardware) so I don't want to see how much better all the new TV's are (horror of innivation). ;-)
I don't need to pre listen the Boom, because the alternative would be a SBC hooked to either old Computer Speakers or my trusty old compact Sony Stereo.
Both options would involve several units wich i would like to avoid.
So I stay a happy customer and soon be converted from a Softsqueeze only to a Boom and Softsqzeeze User! ;-)
Also the sunday is usually much to crowded on this show.
Greetz surly
Michaelwagner
2008-08-31, 05:52
Too bad. If you'd gone earlier in the week, Caleb might have bought you a beer.
I'm ashamed to say, when pippin came by, I had no euros, so he bought
me one! I'l find some way to make it up to him though.
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Michaelwagner
2008-08-31, 06:38
I'm ashamed to say, when pippin came by, I had no euros, so he bought me one!
What? The boss didn't give you the Logitech corporate credit card?
As I found out, most places in Germany don't take credit cards.
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What? The boss didn't give you the Logitech corporate credit card?
Try to pay for a beer with a credit card in Germany!
Hey is one of you Guys still in Berlin? Or are You back at home (i might even drop todays warm up at work for a little talk with you guys over a beer)!
Greetz surly
Michaelwagner
2008-08-31, 07:00
As I found out, most places in Germany don't take credit cards.
When I lived there, 20 years ago, that was true. But my gf has been back about 5 years ago and says it's no longer true, at least not in Austria. I know I paid for a train ticket once (at the station, not on the train) with a credit card.
I guess my 20DM in the back of my drawer aren't going to be much good any more .....
Michaelwagner
2008-08-31, 07:01
Hey is one of you Guys still in Berlin?
I was never there. Caleb said last night that he was catching a plane this morning for the US of A. I don't know where he's been emailing from - maybe he has email on the plane.
When I lived there, 20 years ago, that was true. But my gf has been back about 5 years ago and says it's no longer true, at least not in Austria. I know I paid for a train ticket once (at the station, not on the train) with a credit card.
I guess my 20DM in the back of my drawer aren't going to be much good any more .....
You can still change your DM for € until eternity!
That's a pitty that I missed caleb, would have loved to have some tech' talk with him.
Greetz surly
When I lived there, 20 years ago, that was true. But my gf has been back about 5 years ago and says it's no longer true, at least not in Austria. I know I paid for a train ticket once (at the station, not on the train) with a credit card.
I guess my 20DM in the back of my drawer aren't going to be much good any more .....
Train Ticket - No problem
Buying clothes or stuff - no problem
Paying in a restaurant - 50% chance
Grocery store - 25% chance
Beer at a bar - if it's the hotel bar: ok, any other one: no chance
Taxi - forget it
Michaelwagner
2008-08-31, 07:26
Train Ticket - No problem
Buying clothes or stuff - no problem
Paying in a restaurant - 50% chance
Grocery store - 25% chance
Beer at a bar - if it's the hotel bar: ok, any other one: no chance
Taxi - forget it
Good to know, thanks. 20 years ago, it was
in a bank, maybe.
Absolutely nowhere else.
5 years later it was
train in germany, not in italy
hotels, yes
airplanes
nowhere else
Often you can only pay with Visa, American Express is not so widely accepted.
So it's EC (Eurocheque Card - pretty much a direct access to your bank account) or Cash, I just abandoned my Visa because I didn't use it exept for internet shopping every 2 Years and I don't want to pay for something I don't use.
Also I don't like the spreading of expenses over to many accounts (much harder to keep track of your expenses!)
Greetz surly
Michaelwagner
2008-08-31, 09:23
I had an Eurocheque Card. It seemed pretty advanced 20 years ago.
You should see it now, it's very fast nearly no delay while connecting to the bank.
Greetz surly
I had an Eurocheque Card. It seemed pretty advanced 20 years ago.
yes, German banks love that one and try to press it into the market instead of credit cards. The big difference is: with EC you take all the risk instead of the bank. Bad system. Try to avoid it wherever I can
Michaelwagner
2008-09-01, 04:49
Hmm...the system you guys are describing is nothing like what we had 20 years ago. These were cheques, given out in limited quantities, that were as good as cash. You had to show your card and write your card number on the back. There was no calling the bank ... the cheques were effectively "certified" up to 400DM.
Hmm...the system you guys are describing is nothing like what we had 20 years ago. These were cheques, given out in limited quantities, that were as good as cash. You had to show your card and write your card number on the back. There was no calling the bank ... the cheques were effectively "certified" up to 400DM.
Yea. That's not around anymore.
Today you only use the card. Essentially like a credit card but tied to your bank account.
They have a security feature using your PIN code that puts the burden of proof on you in case of fraud and they have a system using signatures that's pretty similar to a credit card with the exception that the amount is immediately deducted from your bank account (also making it YOUR money that gets stolen in case of fraud intead of the bank's as with a credit card).
Overall, from a customer perspective it's not nearly as secure or convenient as a real credit card but banks love it for the lower risk and shops like it for the lower cost.
Today you only use the card. Essentially like a credit card but tied to your bank account.
AKA a Debit card in the rest of the world.
rest of the world.
Allow me to doubt that.
Also we were talking about that specific type of card Michael had and that was NOT yet a debit card at the time he was in Germany.
Allow me to doubt that.
Feel free. I guess I should have been more specific about my definitions, according to wikipedia they exist in a decent number of places:
UK
USA
France
Germany
Poland
Hungary
Australia
Canada
Chile
Colombia
India
Japan
The Netherlands
New Zealand
The Philippines
Russia
Singapore
...and probably a few more. It even points to the EC card as the first common type of debit card in Germany.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debit_card
But they are not called "Debit Card" in all of these places, see for example:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%87%E3%83%93%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%82%AB%E3%8 3%BC%E3%83%89
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pankkikortti
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betaalkaart
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%80%9F%E8%AE%B0%E5%8D%A1
Funny enough, I just learned that they ARE actually called "Debitkarte" in Germany, which I really never ever heard being used.
EDIT: This starts to become some real hair-splitting fun :-)
EDIT: This starts to become some real hair-splitting fun :-)
Which was not my intention, I was simply putting the term out there for the benefit of readers from places other than Germany :) I remember eurocheques very clearly from my childhood, and their evolution into debit cards in the UK. I also remember being amazed last time I was in Germany as I was in a large electronics store watching people buy e3000 home theater setups with huge bundles of cash. Different strokes I guess!
Maybe it's just not as much a living on credit society here...
But it's getting worse.
Greetz Surly
Which was not my intention, I was simply putting the term out there for the benefit of readers from places other than Germany :) I remember eurocheques very clearly from my childhood, and their evolution into debit cards in the UK. I also remember being amazed last time I was in Germany as I was in a large electronics store watching people buy e3000 home theater setups with huge bundles of cash. Different strokes I guess!
Was not meant negatively :)
Maybe it's just not as much a living on credit society here...
But it's getting worse.
I don't think that's it. Credit Cards in Germany are also not "real" credit cards but just a means of deferred payment for one month.
I think it's a mixture of the dominance of the public savings banks in Germany, which force a system with unfavorable conditions on users (EC cards are worse for users than credit cards in almost any sense) and a very low margin retail market not being ready to cover credit card fees (that's a fortunate aspect unfortunately easing up).
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