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mherger
2005-10-14, 04:04
Max,

is there something missing from the following string or do I simply not
understand? :-)

PLUGIN_RANDOM_GENERAL_HELP
EN You can add or remove songs from your mix at any time. To stop a
random mix, clear your playlist or click to

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max.spicer
2005-10-14, 04:48
It's only used in the web ui and is followed by the contents of the string that is "Stop adding xxxx" (PLUGIN_RANDOM_TRACK_ITEM or something like that). They are separate strings, as the link text changes depending on what's being played.

Max


Max,

is there something missing from the following string or do I simply not
understand? :-)

PLUGIN_RANDOM_GENERAL_HELP
EN You can add or remove songs from your mix at any time. To stop a
random mix, clear your playlist or click to

Regards,

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mherger
2005-10-14, 05:11
> It's only used in the web ui and is followed by the contents of the
> string that is "Stop adding xxxx" (PLUGIN_RANDOM_TRACK_ITEM or
> something like that). They are separate strings, as the link text
> changes depending on what's being played.

So you're basically concatenating PLUGIN_RANDOM_GENERAL_HELP and
PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings? I'll have to change my translations then.
Are the PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings used elsewhere? You're using
uppercase first letters?

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max.spicer
2005-10-14, 05:32
Yes. They are not used anywhere else at present. Would you prefer this to be done differently? I wasn't entirely happy with it myself, but wasn't sure how to improve it.

Max


> It's only used in the web ui and is followed by the contents of the
> string that is "Stop adding xxxx" (PLUGIN_RANDOM_TRACK_ITEM or
> something like that). They are separate strings, as the link text
> changes depending on what's being played.

So you're basically concatenating PLUGIN_RANDOM_GENERAL_HELP and
PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings? I'll have to change my translations then.
Are the PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings used elsewhere? You're using
uppercase first letters?

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mherger
2005-10-14, 05:42
> Yes. They are not used anywhere else at present. Would you prefer this
> to be done differently? I wasn't entirely happy with it myself, but
> wasn't sure how to improve it.

Neither am I. Sometimes it's hard to translate a paragraphs structure. The
position of the parts may vary with the language. But it's ok here (at
least for german :-)). And it's hard to do differently.

What irritated me was the uppercase first letters. They made me think
these were menu items. But I got it now. I'll update my translation.

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Grotus
2005-10-14, 09:47
It might be better saying something like:
"You can add or remove songs from your mix at any time. To stop a
random mix, clear your playlist or click the link below."

Then make the separate string which says:
"Stop adding xxx"
as the link text.

max.spicer blurted out:
> Yes. They are not used anywhere else at present. Would you prefer this
> to be done differently? I wasn't entirely happy with it myself, but
> wasn't sure how to improve it.
>
> Max
>
> mherger Wrote:
>
>>>It's only used in the web ui and is followed by the contents of the
>>>string that is "Stop adding xxxx" (PLUGIN_RANDOM_TRACK_ITEM or
>>>something like that). They are separate strings, as the link text
>>>changes depending on what's being played.
>>
>>So you're basically concatenating PLUGIN_RANDOM_GENERAL_HELP and
>>PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings? I'll have to change my translations
>>then.
>>Are the PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings used elsewhere? You're using
>>uppercase first letters?

dean
2005-10-14, 10:13
Hm, I propose this...

Let's go back to something similar to before, remove the "Now
Playing" phrase and make it look like:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------

RANDOM MIX

Home / Random Mix

------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------

Choose a random mix of music from your library:

<b>Random song mix running</b> Cancel
Random artists mix
Play Add
Random albums mix
Play Add
Random years mix
Play Add

------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------

Genres to include in your mix:

[x] A Capella [ ] New Age
...

(Select All)

The random mix will show [__5] upcoming songs and [__5] recently
played songs.

(Save)

------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------


On Oct 14, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Robert Moser wrote:

> It might be better saying something like:
> "You can add or remove songs from your mix at any time. To stop a
> random mix, clear your playlist or click the link below."
>
> Then make the separate string which says:
> "Stop adding xxx"
> as the link text.
>
> max.spicer blurted out:
>
>> Yes. They are not used anywhere else at present. Would you
>> prefer this
>> to be done differently? I wasn't entirely happy with it myself, but
>> wasn't sure how to improve it.
>> Max
>> mherger Wrote:
>>
>>>> It's only used in the web ui and is followed by the contents of the
>>>> string that is "Stop adding xxxx" (PLUGIN_RANDOM_TRACK_ITEM or
>>>> something like that). They are separate strings, as the link text
>>>> changes depending on what's being played.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So you're basically concatenating PLUGIN_RANDOM_GENERAL_HELP and
>>> PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings? I'll have to change my translations
>>> then. Are the PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings used elsewhere?
>>> You're using uppercase first letters?
>>>
>
>

max.spicer
2005-10-14, 10:41
Problem with Cancel, is that it leaves it a bit ambiguous about what's going to happen - will the playlist revert to before the mix, will playback stop etc etc. I like something like "Stop Adding Songs" as it makes this nice and clear. Can I have:

<b>Random song mix running</b> Stop Adding Songs

Max


Hm, I propose this...

Let's go back to something similar to before, remove the "Now
Playing" phrase and make it look like:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------

RANDOM MIX

Home / Random Mix

------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------

Choose a random mix of music from your library:

<b>Random song mix running</b> Cancel
Random artists mix
Play Add
Random albums mix
Play Add
Random years mix
Play Add

------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------

Genres to include in your mix:

[x] A Capella [ ] New Age
...

(Select All)

The random mix will show [__5] upcoming songs and [__5] recently
played songs.

(Save)

------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------


On Oct 14, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Robert Moser wrote:

> It might be better saying something like:
> "You can add or remove songs from your mix at any time. To stop a
> random mix, clear your playlist or click the link below."
>
> Then make the separate string which says:
> "Stop adding xxx"
> as the link text.
>
> max.spicer blurted out:
>
>> Yes. They are not used anywhere else at present. Would you
>> prefer this
>> to be done differently? I wasn't entirely happy with it myself, but
>> wasn't sure how to improve it.
>> Max
>> mherger Wrote:
>>
>>>> It's only used in the web ui and is followed by the contents of the
>>>> string that is "Stop adding xxxx" (PLUGIN_RANDOM_TRACK_ITEM or
>>>> something like that). They are separate strings, as the link text
>>>> changes depending on what's being played.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So you're basically concatenating PLUGIN_RANDOM_GENERAL_HELP and
>>> PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings? I'll have to change my translations
>>> then. Are the PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings used elsewhere?
>>> You're using uppercase first letters?
>>>
>
>

dean
2005-10-14, 11:02
I considered that, but I think that Stop is even more problematic, as
we always use Stop to mean "stop playback"

I chose "Random song mix running - Cancel" to try to imply that
the running random song mix would be cancelled, but playback would
continue.


On Oct 14, 2005, at 10:41 AM, max.spicer wrote:

>
> Problem with Cancel, is that it leaves it a bit ambiguous about what's
> going to happen - will the playlist revert to before the mix, will
> playback stop etc etc. I like something like "Stop Adding Songs"
> as it
> makes this nice and clear. Can I have:
>
> <b>Random song mix running</b> Stop
> Adding Songs
>
> Max
>
> dean Wrote:
>
>> Hm, I propose this...
>>
>> Let's go back to something similar to before, remove the "Now
>> Playing" phrase and make it look like:
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> RANDOM MIX
>>
>> Home / Random Mix
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> Choose a random mix of music from your library:
>>
>> <b>Random song mix running</b>
>> Cancel
>> Random artists mix
>> Play Add
>> Random albums mix
>> Play Add
>> Random years mix
>> Play Add
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> Genres to include in your mix:
>>
>> [x] A Capella [ ] New Age
>> ...
>>
>> (Select All)
>>
>> The random mix will show [__5] upcoming songs and [__5] recently
>> played songs.
>>
>> (Save)
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---
>>
>> -----------
>>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Robert Moser wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It might be better saying something like:
>>> "You can add or remove songs from your mix at any time. To stop a
>>> random mix, clear your playlist or click the link below."
>>>
>>> Then make the separate string which says:
>>> "Stop adding xxx"
>>> as the link text.
>>>
>>> max.spicer blurted out:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes. They are not used anywhere else at present. Would you
>>>> prefer this
>>>> to be done differently? I wasn't entirely happy with it myself,
>>>>
>> but
>>
>>>> wasn't sure how to improve it.
>>>> Max
>>>> mherger Wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> It's only used in the web ui and is followed by the contents of
>>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>> string that is "Stop adding xxxx" (PLUGIN_RANDOM_TRACK_ITEM or
>>>>>> something like that). They are separate strings, as the link
>>>>>>
>> text
>>
>>>>>> changes depending on what's being played.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So you're basically concatenating PLUGIN_RANDOM_GENERAL_HELP and
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings? I'll have to change my
>>>>>
>> translations
>>
>>>>> then. Are the PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings used elsewhere?
>>>>> You're using uppercase first letters?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> max.spicer
>
> The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible
> teeth
> and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws
> but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye
>

max.spicer
2005-10-14, 11:27
Stop Adding Songs, Stop Adding Years etc. Not just stop. I'm not convinced that Stop Adding Songs in any way implies stop playback. Nevertheless, Cancel it is unless you've somehow been convinced by this objection. ;-)

Max


I considered that, but I think that Stop is even more problematic, as
we always use Stop to mean "stop playback"

I chose "Random song mix running - Cancel" to try to imply that
the running random song mix would be cancelled, but playback would
continue.


On Oct 14, 2005, at 10:41 AM, max.spicer wrote:

>
> Problem with Cancel, is that it leaves it a bit ambiguous about what's
> going to happen - will the playlist revert to before the mix, will
> playback stop etc etc. I like something like "Stop Adding Songs"
> as it
> makes this nice and clear. Can I have:
>
> <b>Random song mix running</b> Stop
> Adding Songs
>
> Max
>
> dean Wrote:
>
>> Hm, I propose this...
>>
>> Let's go back to something similar to before, remove the "Now
>> Playing" phrase and make it look like:
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> RANDOM MIX
>>
>> Home / Random Mix
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> Choose a random mix of music from your library:
>>
>> <b>Random song mix running</b>
>> Cancel
>> Random artists mix
>> Play Add
>> Random albums mix
>> Play Add
>> Random years mix
>> Play Add
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> Genres to include in your mix:
>>
>> [x] A Capella [ ] New Age
>> ...
>>
>> (Select All)
>>
>> The random mix will show [__5] upcoming songs and [__5] recently
>> played songs.
>>
>> (Save)
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---
>>
>> -----------
>>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Robert Moser wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It might be better saying something like:
>>> "You can add or remove songs from your mix at any time. To stop a
>>> random mix, clear your playlist or click the link below."
>>>
>>> Then make the separate string which says:
>>> "Stop adding xxx"
>>> as the link text.
>>>
>>> max.spicer blurted out:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes. They are not used anywhere else at present. Would you
>>>> prefer this
>>>> to be done differently? I wasn't entirely happy with it myself,
>>>>
>> but
>>
>>>> wasn't sure how to improve it.
>>>> Max
>>>> mherger Wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> It's only used in the web ui and is followed by the contents of
>>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>> string that is "Stop adding xxxx" (PLUGIN_RANDOM_TRACK_ITEM or
>>>>>> something like that). They are separate strings, as the link
>>>>>>
>> text
>>
>>>>>> changes depending on what's being played.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So you're basically concatenating PLUGIN_RANDOM_GENERAL_HELP and
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings? I'll have to change my
>>>>>
>> translations
>>
>>>>> then. Are the PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings used elsewhere?
>>>>> You're using uppercase first letters?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> max.spicer
>
> The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible
> teeth
> and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws
> but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye
>

dean
2005-10-14, 11:37
I was confused by a line wrap, but I'm still not happy about using
the word Stop.

Let's try Cancel and see how it feels...


On Oct 14, 2005, at 11:27 AM, max.spicer wrote:

>
> Stop Adding Songs, Stop Adding Years etc. Not just stop. I'm not
> convinced that Stop Adding Songs in any way implies stop playback.
> Nevertheless, Cancel it is unless you've somehow been convinced by
> this
> objection. ;-)
>
> Max
>
> dean Wrote:
>
>> I considered that, but I think that Stop is even more problematic, as
>> we always use Stop to mean "stop playback"
>>
>> I chose "Random song mix running - Cancel" to try to imply that
>> the running random song mix would be cancelled, but playback would
>> continue.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2005, at 10:41 AM, max.spicer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Problem with Cancel, is that it leaves it a bit ambiguous about
>>>
>> what's
>>
>>> going to happen - will the playlist revert to before the mix, will
>>> playback stop etc etc. I like something like "Stop Adding Songs"
>>> as it
>>> makes this nice and clear. Can I have:
>>>
>>> <b>Random song mix running</b> Stop
>>> Adding Songs
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>> dean Wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hm, I propose this...
>>>>
>>>> Let's go back to something similar to before, remove the "Now
>>>> Playing" phrase and make it look like:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> -----------
>>>>
>>>> RANDOM MIX
>>>>
>>>> Home / Random Mix
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> -----------
>>>>
>>>> Choose a random mix of music from your library:
>>>>
>>>> <b>Random song mix running</b>
>>>> Cancel
>>>> Random artists mix
>>>> Play Add
>>>> Random albums mix
>>>> Play Add
>>>> Random years mix
>>>> Play Add
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> -----------
>>>>
>>>> Genres to include in your mix:
>>>>
>>>> [x] A Capella [ ] New Age
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> (Select All)
>>>>
>>>> The random mix will show [__5] upcoming songs and [__5]
>>>>
>> recently
>>
>>>> played songs.
>>>>
>>>> (Save)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> -----------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 14, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Robert Moser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It might be better saying something like:
>>>>> "You can add or remove songs from your mix at any time. To stop a
>>>>> random mix, clear your playlist or click the link below."
>>>>>
>>>>> Then make the separate string which says:
>>>>> "Stop adding xxx"
>>>>> as the link text.
>>>>>
>>>>> max.spicer blurted out:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. They are not used anywhere else at present. Would you
>>>>>> prefer this
>>>>>> to be done differently? I wasn't entirely happy with it myself,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> but
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> wasn't sure how to improve it.
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>> mherger Wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's only used in the web ui and is followed by the contents of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> string that is "Stop adding xxxx" (PLUGIN_RANDOM_TRACK_ITEM or
>>>>>>>> something like that). They are separate strings, as the link
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> text
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> changes depending on what's being played.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you're basically concatenating PLUGIN_RANDOM_GENERAL_HELP and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings? I'll have to change my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> translations
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> then. Are the PLUGIN_RANDOM_*_DISABLE strings used elsewhere?
>>>>>>> You're using uppercase first letters?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> max.spicer
>>>
>>> The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their
>>>
>> terrible
>>
>>> teeth
>>> and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws
>>> but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> max.spicer
>
> The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible
> teeth
> and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws
> but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye
>

Bill Burns
2005-10-14, 12:05
dean blackketter wrote:
> I was confused by a line wrap, but I'm still not happy about using the
> word Stop.
>
> Let's try Cancel and see how it feels...

How about Finished or Done?

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dean
2005-10-14, 15:32
Needs to be an action word. You want to tell it "to cancel" but "to
finish" or "to done" are a bit awkward...


On Oct 14, 2005, at 12:05 PM, Bill Burns wrote:

> dean blackketter wrote:
>
>> I was confused by a line wrap, but I'm still not happy about using
>> the word Stop.
>> Let's try Cancel and see how it feels...
>>
>
> How about Finished or Done?
>
> --
> Bill Burns
> Long Island NY USA
> mailto:billb (AT) ftldesign (DOT) com
>