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Craig, James (IT)
2005-01-12, 09:47
Shame.

Still I guess it will be all of a week before a 3rd party announces a
nice bus powered drive case in matching form factor
- for 50% more money than a normal one...

James

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wood
Sent: 12 January 2005 16:42
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] Nice box...

discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hickey
wrote:

> I'm sure you could put a bigger HD in it...

I don't think so ... at least not today. miniMac uses a Cardbus drive
and I
think 80G is the largest available ...

_____________________
Phil Wood
woodp (AT) woodp (DOT) com
http://www.woodp.com/

Jonathan Miller
2005-01-12, 10:56
What about using a 160 gig wireless Buffalo Linkstation (or similar
NAS) for storage? I'm storing my iTunes music on mine and works just
fine with my iBook and streaming to Airport Express.


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:47:14 -0000, Craig, James (IT)
<James.Craig (AT) morganstanley (DOT) com> wrote:
> Shame.
>
> Still I guess it will be all of a week before a 3rd party announces a
> nice bus powered drive case in matching form factor
> - for 50% more money than a normal one...
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wood
> Sent: 12 January 2005 16:42
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] Nice box...
>
> discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hickey
> wrote:
>
> > I'm sure you could put a bigger HD in it...
>
> I don't think so ... at least not today. miniMac uses a Cardbus drive
> and I
> think 80G is the largest available ...
>
> _____________________
> Phil Wood
> woodp (AT) woodp (DOT) com
> http://www.woodp.com/
>
>

Jonathan Greene
2005-01-12, 11:41
exactly - I use a Ximeta disc now and it's great. I also have files on
firewire which I would plan to connect to the mini directly and have a
pretty rocking small footprint server.

must... stop... obsessing .... over ..... this

It is just way to tempting.

On Jan 12, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Jonathan Miller wrote:

> What about using a 160 gig wireless Buffalo Linkstation (or similar
> NAS) for storage? I'm storing my iTunes music on mine and works just
> fine with my iBook and streaming to Airport Express.
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:47:14 -0000, Craig, James (IT)
> <James.Craig (AT) morganstanley (DOT) com> wrote:
>> Shame.
>>
>> Still I guess it will be all of a week before a 3rd party announces a
>> nice bus powered drive case in matching form factor
>> - for 50% more money than a normal one...
>>
>> James
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wood
>> Sent: 12 January 2005 16:42
>> To: Slim Devices Discussion
>> Subject: [slim] Nice box...
>>
>> discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hickey
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure you could put a bigger HD in it...
>>
>> I don't think so ... at least not today. miniMac uses a Cardbus drive
>> and I
>> think 80G is the largest available ...
>>
>> _____________________
>> Phil Wood
>> woodp (AT) woodp (DOT) com
>> http://www.woodp.com/
>>
>>

Torgeir Veimo
2005-01-12, 12:41
On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 09:56 -0800, Jonathan Miller wrote:
> What about using a 160 gig wireless Buffalo Linkstation (or similar
> NAS) for storage? I'm storing my iTunes music on mine and works just
> fine with my iBook and streaming to Airport Express.

Will the slimserver software run comfortably on this box?

--
Torgeir Veimo <torgeir (AT) pobox (DOT) com>

Michael Alletto
2005-01-12, 15:31
The more I think about doing the mini-eyehome-dvd thing the less I
want to. Mini $500, eyehome $180, a few 300GB external firewire HD's,
$329 a pop (would need about 2500GB to store all my movies). A gig of
memory for mini, $500 more.

Come on slim devices, release a vob, mpeg video playing squeezebox!
300GB internal IDE HD, $195 a piece. Using current linux box to
extract/store the movies, free. Video squeezebox, even if its $300
its still a cheaper solution. Needs svideo, component, composite
video outputs. Needs optical output for passing the multichannel
sound to a receiver. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:41:18 -0500, Jonathan Greene
<atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net> wrote:
> exactly - I use a Ximeta disc now and it's great. I also have files on
> firewire which I would plan to connect to the mini directly and have a
> pretty rocking small footprint server.
>
> must... stop... obsessing .... over ..... this
>
> It is just way to tempting.
>
> On Jan 12, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Jonathan Miller wrote:
>
> > What about using a 160 gig wireless Buffalo Linkstation (or similar
> > NAS) for storage? I'm storing my iTunes music on mine and works just
> > fine with my iBook and streaming to Airport Express.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:47:14 -0000, Craig, James (IT)
> > <James.Craig (AT) morganstanley (DOT) com> wrote:
> >> Shame.
> >>
> >> Still I guess it will be all of a week before a 3rd party announces a
> >> nice bus powered drive case in matching form factor
> >> - for 50% more money than a normal one...
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> >> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wood
> >> Sent: 12 January 2005 16:42
> >> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> >> Subject: [slim] Nice box...
> >>
> >> discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> >> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hickey
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm sure you could put a bigger HD in it...
> >>
> >> I don't think so ... at least not today. miniMac uses a Cardbus drive
> >> and I
> >> think 80G is the largest available ...
> >>
> >> _____________________
> >> Phil Wood
> >> woodp (AT) woodp (DOT) com
> >> http://www.woodp.com/
> >>
> >>

Michael Alletto
2005-01-12, 17:22
4-5k? really, exaggerate much? Eyehome does exactly what I want a
slim device to do and it costs $180 but I don't really want to get a
mac and don't want to reorganize my home network to support it. I
don't want slim to provide any software or anything to rip dvd's or do
anything to do with creating the files, just provide the hardware and
interface to decode them. This does not cost 4-5 grand. Other
companies are doing it now, and more are joining the fun. I'd hate to
see Slim turn into a turtle beach and never really upgrade their
product.

There is nothing illegal about making a digital backup of DVD's that
you own just like there is nothing illegal about making mp3's out of
your music cd's. This is exactly the same kind of thing, just
different presentation. I bet 5 years ago people were trying to give
the same arguement against something just like the squeezebox and look
where we are now.

I'd place bets on the demand being larger than you think.


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:08:42 -0700, Jason <jason (AT) pagefamily (DOT) net> wrote:
> I think folks need to come to grips with reality a bit here. You start
> putting together a list of things you would need to do in order to do video
> from the PC and you easily are talking about a $4000-$5000 or more price tag
> just for a home video setup through your PC.
>
> Even if Slim released a small video player that could stream video files
> over the network the issue of allowing people to make backup copies of their
> movies is NOT TRIVIAL and I doubt that Slim wants to be one of the companies
> getting sued and harassed by the motion picture companies.
>
> Whether there is Linux freeware to make backups of DVDs or not, 80% of all
> Slimserver software downloads are for Windows and it's likely any video
> solution would be purchased by Windows users too (in larger quantities than
> Linux or Mac users). Users who are going to expect software "in the box"
> for ripping and storing their DVDs. Users who aren't going to understand
> the bandwidth requirements of doing streaming video over their cheezy home
> network. Users who don't understand that ripping and storing a dual layer
> DVD to hard drive consumes as much as 8.5GB PER DISC. The average person
> probably has 20-40 DVDs and now you are talking about them having upwards of
> 350GB+ just to store a small number of movies. The real videophile who the
> device would really appeal to likely has 100 movies or more so now you are
> talking about 1 terrabyte of storage or more. The market is just not there
> for such solutions today.
>
> There's little question that VOD and HDTV VOD are going to be the wave of
> the future but I doubt that Slim can gamble on such a solution when the
> market is not ripe for it yet.
>
> If you are hot to trot to get a video solution going there are solutions
> being demonstrated from Sony and others that basically turn a PC into a
> "media manager" for controlling media content to a display. The systems
> that have been shown so far range from $3000-$5000 and are "all in one"
> solutions that don't include super high capacity hard drives that would be
> needed to archive a collection. If you are really as gung ho about it as
> you say then bite the bullet, because I am skeptical that Slim will have
> anything out that does this for quite a while (months or years maybe and
> then only if there is sufficient demand from users beyond the subscriptors
> to this email list).
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> > [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of
> > Michael Alletto
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:31 PM
> > To: Slim Devices Discussion
> > Subject: [slim] Nice box...
> >
> > The more I think about doing the mini-eyehome-dvd thing the
> > less I want to. Mini $500, eyehome $180, a few 300GB
> > external firewire HD's,
> > $329 a pop (would need about 2500GB to store all my movies).
> > A gig of memory for mini, $500 more.
>
>